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Jeff Sessions Fired. Trump Stooge to take over direct control of Mueller investigation. Jeff Sessions Fired. Trump Stooge to take over direct control of Mueller investigation.

11-07-2018 , 04:05 PM
Jeff Sessions resigns at request of the President.

Chief of staff Matthew Whitaker to serve as acting AG until replacement is named. Incoming constitutional crisis in 5...4...3...2...
11-07-2018 , 04:10 PM
Before the Constitutional crisis, let's thank JBS3 for Doug Jones Senate seat and letting us appreciate one of President Trump's minor charms: all those times he absolutely humiliated and demeaned Jeff Sessions.
11-07-2018 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Before the Constitutional crisis, let's thank JBS3 for Doug Jones Senate seat and letting us appreciate one of President Trump's minor charms: all those times he absolutely humiliated and demeaned Jeff Sessions.
JBS3 is getting that seat back in 2020, who are we kidding.
11-07-2018 , 04:12 PM
Ok but seriously, what already confirmed slapdick is he gonna insert before he fires Mueller?
11-07-2018 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
Ok but seriously, what already confirmed slapdick is he gonna insert before he fires Mueller?
Seem wrong to refer to sarah sanders as a slapdick.
11-07-2018 , 04:16 PM
As a reminder of why we're counting down to a Constitutional crisis, the new slapstick will take over Mueller oversight from Rosenstein.
11-07-2018 , 04:18 PM
Does the Dems taking control of the House in any way protect Mueller?
11-07-2018 , 04:18 PM
2 hours ago:

Trump vows ‘beautiful’ deals with Democrats but threatens ‘warlike’ retaliation to probes
“I could fire everybody right now, but I don’t want to stop it because politically I don’t like stopping it,” Trump said.
11-07-2018 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by An_Reathai
Does the Dems taking control of the House in any way protect Mueller?
Not really no, and they don’t have control anyway until January.
11-07-2018 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Before the Constitutional crisis, let's thank JBS3 for Doug Jones Senate seat and letting us appreciate one of President Trump's minor charms: all those times he absolutely humiliated and demeaned Jeff Sessions.
11-07-2018 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by An_Reathai
Does the Dems taking control of the House in any way protect Mueller?
Only to the extent that they can threaten Trump with their new power. The problem is they'll be pulling most of the strings available to them anyway, not many tools left.

The other problem is if they negotiate with Trump at all, the base/this forum will rage. So they probably won't on stuff other than continuing resolutions.
11-07-2018 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
Ok but seriously, what already confirmed slapdick is he gonna insert before he fires Mueller?
he's got his guy in whittaker. whittaker has already said he thinks the mueller investigation is out of bounds and should be stopped..
11-07-2018 , 04:28 PM
the house can re-hire mueller in jan. under their jurisdiction i believe. but thats about it.
11-07-2018 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
he's got his guy in whittaker. whittaker has already said he thinks the mueller investigation is out of bounds and should be stopped..
Is the idea to have some redshirt come out and do the dirty work, then turn the job over to Graham or Kobach or whoever so they don't have to get their hands dirty/get grilled in the Senate about what they will do with Mueller?
11-07-2018 , 04:33 PM
Fretting about Mueller getting fired is understandable, righteous even, but even the best case scenarios involved Mueller proving Trump pissed on dozens of Russian prostitutes and then promised Putin he'd run for President and give him Alaska and the GOP was never going to give a **** or do anything besides theatrical Concerned rituals, and it was going to be news for like a week before everyone moved on. Some on the left or liberals or Democrats just put so much hope into what is essentially a political process controlled by Republicans. It was almost certain to end in disappointment and frustration at some level, the whole affair is to try to get the investigation to shake either Trump's voters or the GOP caucus into sanity, neither will happen.
11-07-2018 , 04:36 PM
If Mueller has indictments and a report to drop it’s now or never.
11-07-2018 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Fretting about Mueller getting fired is understandable, righteous even, but even the best case scenarios involved Mueller proving Trump pissed on dozens of Russian prostitutes and then promised Putin he'd run for President and give him Alaska and the GOP was never going to give a **** or do anything besides theatrical Concerned rituals, and it was going to be news for like a week before everyone moved on. Some on the left or liberals or Democrats just put so much hope into what is essentially a political process controlled by Republicans. It was almost certain to end in disappointment and frustration at some level, the whole affair is to try to get the investigation to shake either Trump's voters or the GOP caucus into sanity, neither will happen.
He doesn’t even have to be fired. He can just be told “no” to anything he wants to do.
11-07-2018 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
Ok but seriously, what already confirmed slapdick is he gonna insert before he fires Mueller?
I thought the plan was to have Lindsey full in.
11-07-2018 , 04:44 PM
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He doesn’t even have to be fired. He can just be told “no” to anything he wants to do.
Sure, sure, but I mean the absolute best case scenario for Democrats here isn't that Trump goes to jail or gets impeached, that was never going to happen, it was mostly just who was going to get embarrassed as a total Russian stooge or hopelessly naive, like we'd discover Nunes or Rorhbacher or whoever was really on Putin's payroll or Eric Trump sat in a meeting with Putin who wore a funny pretend mustache and pretended to be a surviving Romanov known as Count von Ruskie Petradollar and Eric Trump sincerely called him Count because he didn't recognize Putin, and told him he'd surely deliver mineral rights to up to five national parks in exchange for Hillary Clinton's Yahoo email password. That was it, the whole thing, and I for one still hold out hope this might come true, like it gets leaked and we can clown on one of those dip**** Trump boys for a week until we all move on.
11-07-2018 , 04:46 PM
This is where all the lawyers who told us the system will work and we are a nation of laws learn that it won't work and we are not.
11-07-2018 , 04:46 PM
I don’t know, I’m leaning towards “Don Jr. goes to jail” as a pretty damn good outcome.
11-07-2018 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Fretting about Mueller getting fired is understandable, righteous even, but even the best case scenarios involved Mueller proving Trump pissed on dozens of Russian prostitutes and then promised Putin he'd run for President and give him Alaska and the GOP was never going to give a **** or do anything besides theatrical Concerned rituals, and it was going to be news for like a week before everyone moved on. Some on the left or liberals or Democrats just put so much hope into what is essentially a political process controlled by Republicans. It was almost certain to end in disappointment and frustration at some level, the whole affair is to try to get the investigation to shake either Trump's voters or the GOP caucus into sanity, neither will happen.
Isn't the point to depress the popularity of Trump and the GOP with the electorate by publicly detailing their various crimes and corruptions? I know the only thing that will really lead to electoral success is for the Democrats to adopt your preferred policies and messaging wholesale, but surely you can't rule out the possibility that the wave of indictments of Trump allies are contributing to his unpopularity. Maybe more indictments would make him even less popular?
11-07-2018 , 04:49 PM
Well ****
11-07-2018 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
Isn't the point to depress the popularity of Trump and the GOP with the electorate by publicly detailing their various crimes and corruptions? I know the only thing that will really lead to electoral success is for the Democrats to adopt your preferred policies and messaging wholesale, but surely you can't rule out the possibility that the wave of indictments of Trump allies are contributing to his unpopularity. Maybe more indictments would make him even less popular?
Maybe? Sincerely, on the margins, I think you're correct. I mean they've already nabbed his former campaign manager, his National Security Advisor, his lawyer. That probably did make him less popular. Who's left, really? One of his dumbass kids would be hilarious and gratifying but not confident it would move the needle.

So, sure, I'd guess a wave of indictments would cost Trump a percentage or two of approval rating and that is worth something. To hear some on the left tell it, firing Mueller is like some earth shattering threat to democracy but practically speaking we're kind of past that point anyway, Trump's already in the "lol @ your laws and norms" phase and the political party with most of the federal power simply does not care, they all blew by all that long ago, from here we're just down to schadenfraude and marginal political impacts. Beating Trump and the GOP is going to involve, yeah, selling an affirmative vision to voters about meaningful alternatives to GOP policies, not simply proving Trump and his orbit are a bunch of criminal grifters, we've all priced that in.
11-07-2018 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
Isn't the point to depress the popularity of Trump and the GOP with the electorate by publicly detailing their various crimes and corruptions? I know the only thing that will really lead to electoral success is for the Democrats to adopt your preferred policies and messaging wholesale, but surely you can't rule out the possibility that the wave of indictments of Trump allies are contributing to his unpopularity. Maybe more indictments would make him even less popular?
I dunno, I feel like none of this matters anymore. It will all be a deep state controversy to that side of the aisle, and come election time, crooked Trump with his convicted allies will drop the mother of all bombs on a migrant caravan in north honduras and get 99.9% of evangelicals to come out to the polls and easily win again.

      
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