https://www.theonion.com/jeff-bezos-...dea-1824144898

I didn't see the similar post before making mine, sorry to have repeated/overlapped content. I posted in hopes of learning something from discussion, by mentioning a step in the logic that doesn't make sense to me.

What about the business model is unethical.

Crap pay and working conditions in the warehouses.

Not paying their fair share of tax.

Even if I agreed with general criticisms of Musk, Bezos, and Zuckerberg, I suspect that the billionaires we don't know anything about, the kind that donate to the Koch schemes, are the truly malignant ones (and some, I assume, are good people). Well, hard to top the Koch's for pure malignancy, but the Mercers and others are trying. It's amusing that leftists are more concerned with policing the border of decent/not decent than organizing against and exposing the truly despicable.

BTW, was watching music stuff on YouTube and there's like a 2010 documentary, probably a student project, of a pre-famous Grimes where she argues space travel is a very important and under resourced area. She even has a photo of Sally Ride taped up in her house. Probably goes a long way to explaining her interest in Musk.

Discussion starts at 40 secs.

Who do you think organizes against the Kochs? The "leftists" were the people at Standing Rock. The centrists were listening to Marketplace on NPR, sponsored by Koch Industries.

Here in eastern Pennsylvania, the local Amazon distribution center is notorious for being the worst of the worst for subhuman working conditions. The Allentown (Pa.) Morning Call actually ran an expose on conditions inside the Amazon D.C. and temps standing by to take over when employees collapse because of the heat.

A local emergency room doctor even reported Amazon to federal regulators for "unsafe working conditions."

http://www.mcall.com/news/local/amaz...917-story.html

They pay substandard wages to overworked employees and actively fight attempts at organization by those employees. They actively avoid paying taxes.

Where I live traffic accidents involving delivery trucks have skyrocketed in the last two or three years. This is mainly due to Amazon.

Been planning to get on a more regular exercise regime. Does Amazon hire warehouse workers for like 20 hrs a week? I used to spend about that much time doing sports.

PM me if you really want to do some hard work some time.

I know you have to do grubby stuff like go under houses and do mechanical and electrical work. I'm thinking more like a substitute for an exercise program. I should really walk and such for like an hour a day, and 2 hours a day at an Amazon wearhouse would probably be great. Problem is they likely want scrappy people for like 8 hours a day, and scrappiness isn't one of my strengths.

I theorize I will live longer than most because I’ve never had a job that involved sitting or an office. I stand over 8 hours a day so the idea of walking being excercise seems odd to me.

You should all be grocery stockers.

Amazon is too focused on effeciency to do it as a hobby. Pick a less cut throat warehouse job. Soda warehouses are pretty good. Walk miles a day and lift 5 to 30 pounds hundreds of times a day while listening to a podcast or audio book. Something with a lot of bags or standardized packages works too.

Regarding exercise options - I went hiking on Mt. Baldy today for the first time in 8 months. My foot held up more or less. This is a gigantic deal to me as in the year leading up to my trip I was hiking a ton and it became a big part of my life. It's probably also what messed up my foot, which now has a bone spur (me and Trump baby) and now seems like the symptoms of plantar fasciitis (which is common for those two to be connected).

I'm so happy that it looks like I'll still be able to do it once a week, or once every two weeks at worse, as I try to fix my foot. Then I can just lift weights or do my circuit training thing which is weight heavy during the week and I feel like superman because I'm hiking at 6k-10k feet and never lose my breath.

It's the only serious aerobic activity that doesn't bore me to tears. It's also my meditation, my church and my spiritual connection (which is BS - but at least it's something I can say when the as yet to be identified new girlfriend asks about my spiritual side).

I am kinda buzzed. Also I saw a bobcat today. First time ever, anywhere!

Randomly saw this on Twitter, seems appropriate.


https://twitter.com/rebekahentralgo/...841306113?s=19

Would totally do this if I had an in.

There's also a lot of ladder climbing and moving things around and installing them on roofs. On tile roofs there's a lot of pulling out, drilling and reinstalling heavy tiles. There's plenty of exercise.

I do the plans and permit and sales and other stuff too (why I'm at the computer a fair amount and posting on 2p2) and some of the wiring isn't so physically hard so it's not every day for me, but there are hard days.

I meant that the observations you correctly make are precisely the points of criticism about Amazon and capitalism as a whole.

I'm polishing and sharpening my guillotine as I type this.

This would cost him personally a lot more than 20k x # of employees.

Doing this would tank the stock and most of his wealth is tied to that stock price. These types of raises could easily cost him >50 billion personally.

How would he ever keep up the standard of living he is accustomed to with only a net worth of $100.000.000.000?

Most likely you will live longer the less you sit. Sitting is the new smoking...

lol, not sure if you know the context of the latter but even before you posted it, that's instantly what the first post made me think of