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January LC Thread **Survivor White House Edition** January LC Thread **Survivor White House Edition**
View Poll Results: Who will NOT survive the month of January?
Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III
11 22.45%
John Kelly
2 4.08%
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
0 0%
Rex Tillerson
9 18.37%
Jared Kushner
11 22.45%
Hope Hicks
2 4.08%
Gary Cohn
4 8.16%
Ryan Zinke
2 4.08%
Rod Rosenstein
5 10.20%
Write-in
3 6.12%

01-04-2018 , 03:50 PM
How can a LC thread be derailed by a political topic?
01-04-2018 , 03:54 PM
just tell us who you think is getting kicked off the island in january
01-04-2018 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
That's hardly the only reason Dukakis lost. Seriously, his being short was probably just a big a handicap. As far as Willy Horton goes, maybe calling it BS instead of riding around in a tank would have been a better response.


Ah, the days when wearing a stupid pandering hat could sink a run.



Remember this?



Good times.
01-04-2018 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
That's hardly the only reason Dukakis lost. Seriously, his being short was probably just a big a handicap. As far as Willy Horton goes, maybe calling it BS instead of riding around in a tank would have been a better response.
It was one of the biggest reasons he lost. It was the centerpiece to discredit Dukakis.
01-04-2018 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
just tell us who you think is getting kicked off the island in january
Zinke.
01-04-2018 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
The slope gets steeper right around the mid 90s. The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act was passed in 94.
Not that that act was good or anything, but the "slope getting steeper" is more population growth than anything else. Here's the incarceration rate:



Also, discussing increases in prison population without taking into account the very real increases in crime rate is going to lead to faulty conclusions.
01-04-2018 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
My office used to provide an endless supply of Coke products in 6-packs, so I did end up disposing of a lot of those rings. They may well be illegal in California, but not here.



Are you saying that a plastic bag that is buried in a landfill is somehow going to migrate to the ocean? I guess it's possible, but it doesn't seem very likely. Over the scale of centuries, I would imagine that most landfill sites end up getting developed over before they erode down to a pile of loose garbage blowing around in the wind.
We build sports stadiums on them around here.
01-04-2018 , 04:40 PM
"Anyway, if you are legit concerned the health care system in the US has me going to a **** doctor who could not wait to prescribe me medication based on two high bp readings during my two visits. "

The whole hypertension thing is a swamp. Some German genius (Braunwald?) wrote the book on hypertension - it's about 600 pages long and insanely complicated.

One of the biggest problems is that the "right" way to check a blood pressure is to put a patient in a quiet room, low lighting and wait 20+ minutes before doing the test. Which approximately no one in the history of the ****ing world has even done, for obvious reasons.

It's probably the most over-treated and at the same time under-treated medical issue in existence.

MM MD
01-04-2018 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by hobbes9324
"Anyway, if you are legit concerned the health care system in the US has me going to a **** doctor who could not wait to prescribe me medication based on two high bp readings during my two visits. "

The whole hypertension thing is a swamp. Some German genius (Braunwald?) wrote the book on hypertension - it's about 600 pages long and insanely complicated.

One of the biggest problems is that the "right" way to check a blood pressure is to put a patient in a quiet room, low lighting and wait 20+ minutes before doing the test. Which approximately no one in the history of the ****ing world has even done, for obvious reasons.

It's probably the most over-treated and at the same time under-treated medical issue in existence.

MM MD

Yeah I don't even take it that far at home but I take it the same time every morning right after I get up and sit still for a good 30 seconds or so. I did up my cardio warm up from 5 minutes to 15 minutes at the gym as well, cuz why not?
01-04-2018 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
I don't think trump is healthier than I am and I thought that was your point. Sorry if I missed what you were trying to say. Maybe I am the dumb one after all. Sorry.

What was your point?


Anyway, if you are legit concerned the health care system in the US has me going to a **** doctor who could not wait to prescribe me medication based on two high bp readings during my two visits. I started tracking my bp on my own at home and it is very slightly elevated but below prehypertension based on weeks of data rather than the two white coat syndrome reading in the office.

By the way, for my family I pay 12k a year for the bottom bronze plan coverage (guaranteed to go up after the torpedoed mandate) and the two visits in question have been billed to me at over $800 for my portion. The blood tests she ordered were billed at $1800 to the insurance company (pre discount) and my part was $92 and showed I am low in vitamin A.

She told me I should excersise. She told me 150 minutes a week. I already excersise like I said, but regardless...telling someone to just start excersising 30 minutes five times a week is about the least helpful advice you can give.

I told her I eat sardines nearly every day. She said to be careful of mercury. Sardines are very low mercury.

She told me I should start taking pain killer for joint pain I was concerned about even though I told her the pain was not disruptive at all....ibuprofen regularly. When I reiterated I was not concerned with pain management but just wanted to report it because I was concerned that it showed up she again said I should take it even though there are new studies out that it is terrible to take it long term.

My point? I don't believe anything she says because the advice she gave me that I actually am informed about was mostly wrong. I am switching doctors this month.

Well, if you're seeing another doctor you pretty much zeroed in on my point; that's what I was going to PM you about. Obviously exercising and 'eating right' is good, like duh, but it's such a useful mantra that people tend to forget there are health issues that can be totally unrelated. That the doc wanted to prescribe medication doesn't necessarily negate this.

You might not've been totally serious with your trump example but he does highlight and exacerbate this misconception that fast food equals poison and walking around isn't adequate exercise; it's pretty much a meme at this point, the omg-how-is-this-dude-not-dead. I personally don't eat fast food but there's nothing inherently wrong with it, and nobody is saying big macs actually are the secret to immortality. The insidious problem is people inferring the opposite; if a person avoids big macs because they think they're poison that's fine in a sense, but avoiding big macs also isn't the secret to immortality.

Spoiler alert:

Spoiler:
There is no secret to immortality.


I just don't want to see people fall into the trap of thinking, hey, I shop at whole foods and have never had a big mac, nothing bad can happen. That's not how eating food fundamentally works.
01-04-2018 , 07:45 PM
That's twilight zone. I was about to add 'maybe hobbes can weigh in'.
01-04-2018 , 07:47 PM
McDonald's french fries are kinda ****ed tho
01-04-2018 , 07:52 PM
They used to be fried in beef tallow and McD's didn't divulge this info. Fry-loving vegans and Hindus were pissed when they found out. I'm not making this up.
01-04-2018 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jules22
Signed into law by the liberal icon Bill Clinton, "three strikes" goes to show you that maybe bi partisan cooperation is not the way to get effective fair legislation passed. Between this horror show and the "anti" PATRIOT act it just goes to show when both sides work together everyone loses
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Originally Posted by Jules22
Fly will be along shortly to lick the poop off the Clinton's boots fear not
Ah yes the Trump derangement syndrome diagnoser has logged on to attack the loser of the 2016 election. In the context, and make no mistake, of DEFENDING Donald Trump. The day Jeff Sessions rolled back the HATED NEOLIBERAL CENTRIST OBUNGLER'S marijuana guidance lol.

I'm not saying you or stinkubus likes Trump, make that clear. But you hate Clinton. Mostly Hillary, Bill by association.

And it's sad. I'm authentically left wing, my leftist critiques of Clinton have credibility because I don't only ****ing make them when the libtards are hurting Daddy's feelings.
01-04-2018 , 08:04 PM
whoever is in charge at MSNBC went bezerko and was banging on his desk saying "WE NEED A NATE SILVER" so the underlings went to the mad scientists and they created STEVE KORNACKI in a lab.
01-04-2018 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
Voting for a particular candidate does not necessarily imply a personal endorsement of every stance that candidate takes, nor every policy decision they make.

Let me run an example by you. Would someone who had been receiving AFDC who voted for Clinton in 92 deserve the same scorn?
My man has more sympathy for voting for Donald Trump in a Presidential election than voting for the RFRA in Congress

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I doubt that was the ACLU's intent, and perhaps not Kennedy's or Schumer's, but given Clinton's penchant for compromise with Republicans I am not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
where you aren't just endorsing the stances and policy decisions, when you vote yes on RFRA you're voting for decades later court cases challenging provisions of laws that don't exist yet.
01-04-2018 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
They used to be fried in beef tallow and McD's didn't divulge this info. Fry-loving vegans and Hindus were pissed when they found out. I'm not making this up.
Their fries were sub-par even back when they used beef fat.
01-04-2018 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Ah yes the Trump derangement syndrome diagnoser has logged on to attack the loser of the 2016 election. In the context, and make no mistake, of DEFENDING Donald Trump. The day Jeff Sessions rolled back the HATED NEOLIBERAL CENTRIST OBUNGLER'S marijuana guidance lol.

I'm not saying you or stinkubus likes Trump, make that clear. But you hate Clinton. Mostly Hillary, Bill by association.

And it's sad. I'm authentically left wing, my leftist critiques of Clinton have credibility because I don't only ****ing make them when the libtards are hurting Daddy's feelings.

wait im confused, is my secret heart motivation mysogyny towards Hildawg, or is it im such a devoted Trump toady that I could not browse past a poast that was even slightly anti Trump?

As far as Sessions goes im on record as I would spit in his face given a clear shot at it, and thats the position ill maintain today. Nothing the DOJ does would stop me from doing anything I wanted, certaintly not repealing some mealy mouthed obama doj policy that should have been a legalization effort anyway.
01-04-2018 , 08:17 PM
I don't trust anybody who doesn't eat fast food at least once in a while.
01-04-2018 , 08:18 PM
I don't think the McD's are sub par on taste levels. They're just ****ed because what they consist of.

And I don't think I've eaten fastfood at all in over three years. Not that I'm opposed to it.
01-04-2018 , 08:19 PM
Fly the jesus figure liberal, cracking his knuckles to type up a defense of three strikes. because thats what real liberals do historically revise three strikes and dadt and religous freedom discrimination bills because REEEEEEEEEEEEE Trump
01-04-2018 , 08:19 PM
Huh? They consist of potatoes, grease and salt.
01-04-2018 , 08:20 PM
Yeah I agree with your point. It's not poison in moderate amounts at moderate intervals. The average trump meal according to those reports is a couple of Big Macs, a couple of filet o fish, fries and a shake. That amount consumed as a single meal on a regular basis is going to leave a mark, even if you play golf a lot.

There is a big problem with the common diet here in the US and how fast food fits into it. even tho I think the extreme reactions like severe calorie deficit, paleo, keto and IF are counter-productive for most people concerned with long term health and body composition/weight management--especially if they are using it as a jumping off point to cold turkey bad impulse control, people really should be more concerned with nutritional value of their food.

It sounds like you enjoy toying with diet as a hobby and that's where I'm at. I have been on the fence about going vegan for a couple of years due to environmental and social reasons but I'm too selfish thus far.

Again, thanks for your concern. No hard feelings I hope.
01-04-2018 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Huh? They consist of potatoes, grease and salt.
They have some sort of phenol that preserves them for eternity and other of those ingredients no one can pronounce and aren't on the good side of health.
01-04-2018 , 08:23 PM
I liked how Scaramucci or cory lewandowski or someone was like "he took the buns off though" like somehow removing the buns from that schmorgasbord would tilt it back into the normal meal column lmao

      
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