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January LC Thread **Survivor White House Edition**

View Poll Results: Who will NOT survive the month of January?

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III

11 22.45%

John Kelly

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Sarah Huckabee Sanders

0 0%

Rex Tillerson

9 18.37%

Jared Kushner

11 22.45%

Hope Hicks

2 4.08%

Gary Cohn

4 8.16%

Ryan Zinke

2 4.08%

Rod Rosenstein

5 10.20%

Write-in

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01-13-2018 , 08:33 AM

#876

Jbrochu

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Couldn't he have simply been sending reminder emails to himself? Looks like he was scouting areas around Vegas to try out and/or purchase weapons.

01-13-2018 , 09:25 AM

#877

zikzak

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01-13-2018 , 10:24 AM

#878

pvn

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01-13-2018 , 01:31 PM

#879

Trolly McTrollson

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01-13-2018 , 01:36 PM

#880

AllTheCheese

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If you picked up the Kite Runner from there, you'll question whether Trump had a point.

01-13-2018 , 01:52 PM

#881

LFS

emo gaylord

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We have an early nominee for the 2018 Reality Winner Award for Evidence that the Simulation is Broken: Samuel Lincoln Woodward has been arrested for the murder of his friend Blaze Bernstein.

01-13-2018 , 01:55 PM

#882

pvn

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#RESIST

I mean I really thought the Fox news daily dissection of Obama's vacation expenses was the nut low, but Olberman is like "hold my beer"

01-13-2018 , 02:36 PM

#883

SenorKeeed

mew mew mew

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I thought Keith Oberman was retiring? I was excited.

01-13-2018 , 02:41 PM

#884

Loki

binary duo

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attention whores never retire, they just seek attention in other ways

01-13-2018 , 02:41 PM

#885

Loki

binary duo

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title of story on NPR's website:

Quote:

President Trump's Idea Of Good And Bad Immigrant Countries Has A Historical Precedent

that's it, **** you NPR. I'm done with you and your love affair with white nationalism.

01-13-2018 , 02:42 PM

#886

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48,217

To paraphrase Frankie Boyle:

Criticizing the White House for misspelling a doctor's name is like criticizing Peter Sutcliffe for his parallel parking.

01-13-2018 , 02:49 PM

#887

SenorKeeed

mew mew mew

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Loki

title of story on NPR's website:

that's it, **** you NPR. I'm done with you and your love affair with white nationalism.

Did you read the ****ing story? It is a good article. The **** is wrong with you?

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/13/57780...storical-prece

01-13-2018 , 03:25 PM

#888

Trolly McTrollson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Loki

title of story on NPR's website:

that's it, **** you NPR. I'm done with you and your love affair with white nationalism.

Just a thought but maybe you shouldn't approach reading the same way you do videogame speedruns.

01-13-2018 , 03:33 PM

#889

campfirewest

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Troll of the week?

01-13-2018 , 03:50 PM

#890

pvn

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01-13-2018 , 03:57 PM

#891

campfirewest

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There are worse ways to go

01-13-2018 , 04:20 PM

#892

rockfsh

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Quote:

Originally Posted by campfirewest

Troll of the week?

Daughter called me. I asked her if the sirens were going off, if not not real.

01-13-2018 , 04:50 PM

#893

pvn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rockfsh

Daughter called me. I asked her if the sirens were going off, if not not real.

I saw some people on twitter saying sirens were going off

01-13-2018 , 05:01 PM

#894

DrChesspain

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I could go for a remake of Tora! Tora! Tora!

01-13-2018 , 06:03 PM

#895

DeuceKicker

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Some talking head on TV: The scary thing is NKs system is 100 times worse and 100 times more prone to a false alarm.

01-13-2018 , 06:38 PM

#896

rockfsh

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pvn

I saw some people on twitter saying sirens were going off

They’re delusional

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01-13-2018 , 08:15 PM

#897

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

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I love this twitter account.

01-13-2018 , 10:34 PM

#898

pvn

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Dawson confirmed megahyperelite

Check his work on the Match Game, he learned a ton from Gene Rayburn

01-13-2018 , 11:59 PM

#899

suzzer99

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Interesting article about Alpha Go's swashbuckling play style: https://www.ft.com/content/ea707a24-...5-e94187b3017e

It might be paywalled but I was able to read it by stopping the page before it finished loading (slow internet helped).

Quote:

The breakthrough came 21 moves into one of the 100 games between the two machines: Stockfish 8, one of the world’s leading computer chess engines; and AlphaZero, an upstart program developed by DeepMind, Google’s artificial intelligence research arm. Stockfish, playing black, had a strong defensive position, and had a clear advantage in terms of “material”. It was at this point that white made what looked like a wild sally. It sent a bishop deep into enemy territory, right into the clutches of a black pawn.

To Jonathan Schaeffer this makes no sense at all. A professor of computer science at the University of Alberta, he has spent much of his career designing game-playing machines. He became a chess master himself and wrote what was briefly the top chess program in the 1980s. He also went on to write the first draughts program to beat a human world champion.

Sacrificing a high-value piece without an obvious gain looks like a classic mistake. “By and large, games are decided by counting up material,” he says. “If I’m a pawn ahead, I’m going to win.”

But something unexpected happened after the white bishop charged recklessly into combat. It drew black out, and the board began to open up. The white move resulted, as Schaeffer puts it, in “enormous piece activity, and black is tied up in knots”.

Quote:

In chess circles, AlphaZero has been compared to Paul Morphy, an American chess prodigy from the 19th century, when a more swashbuckling style of play was in vogue. Schaeffer also draws a comparison with Tigran Petrosian, a Soviet champion from the 1960s who played an attack-on-all-fronts game: “He was like a python — he would slowly squeeze you.”

Another is Garry Kasparov. When I catch up with the Russian grandmaster to seek his view on the self-taught chess prodigy, he seems to recognise a kindred spirit. “AlphaZero, to my joy, sacrifices,” he says, equating its style of play to his own. But rather than the chess, he seems more eager to talk about the AI at work behind the scenes. This is the first example of a new class of computer, he says: “It is the first step in creating real AI.”

01-14-2018 , 01:23 AM

#900

ChrisV

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It's available free here (and on Medium).

Dubious takes overall imo. His stuff about chess players is weird:

Quote:

In chess circles, AlphaZero has been compared to Paul Morphy, an American chess prodigy from the 19th century, when a more swashbuckling style of play was in vogue.

I have heard nobody make this ludicrous comparison until now.

Quote:

Schaeffer also draws a comparison with Tigran Petrosian, a Soviet champion from the 1960s who played an attack-on-all-fronts game: “He was like a python — he would slowly squeeze you.”

Bolded is an exactly backwards description of Petrosian, who was a defensive player. From the first paragraph of his Wikipedia article:

Quote:

He was nicknamed "Iron Tigran" due to his almost impenetrable defensive playing style, which emphasised safety above all else.

Schaeffer's description is accurate, but was misunderstood by the author. If chess were MMA, Petrosian would be one of those boring BJJ guys who avoid striking and get booed by the crowd.

I don't think the author understands the impressive thing about AlphaZero. Here's the bishop sacrifice he's talking about in the article.

Here AlphaZero as White found the extremely strong Bg5!!. The immediate threat is Nf6, where if gxf6, Bxf6+ is terminal, and if instead after Nf6 the queen runs to c2 or d3, Bd4 taking over the diagonal and Black is getting slaughtered. The refutations of the various tries are complicated, but it turns out Black has no way to cope with this threat.

Thing is though, Stockfish does eventually find this move. It takes a while - hours on a standard computer - but AlphaZero had a ton of processing power behind it. So finding Bg5 is impressive but not in itself evidence of superiority over Stockfish.

What's impressive is, well, look at the position. White is two pawns down but Black's position looks awful to human eyes. The a8 rook and b8 knight are without any legal moves. The queen is jammed in the corner. This is typical of AlphaZero's games. Stockfish allows one minor concession after another as it sees no concrete refutation, and AlphaZero gradually improves its position until it drops these horrendous positional binds on Stockfish. The point isn't the killing blow here, it's having a position where these killing blows are available. As Schaeffer put it: "[AlphaZero has] such control over the board, it’s almost as though it has an intuition something good will happen". It's this sort of deep understanding of how positions work - as opposed to tactical death blows - which sets AlphaZero apart from standard engines.

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