It shows why the family might have an axe to grind against the school, which could be perfectly legitimate.

He said he took some precautions to make his "always a clock" not seem like a threat. You don't think he was slightly are he might cause some kind of a stir?

I agree the police and school overreacted. But if the kid had a motive to act suspicious and not be completely forthcoming about why he built the clock and brought it to school - then it's a lot more understandable imo.

Nobody ever denied they didn't exist, they just didn't find them at every turn.

Plenty of people said I was crazy for suggesting they even exist.

He didn't act suspicious. He was completely forthcoming.

He didn't even have a motive, what is his goal to get suspended for three days like his sister and nothing else?

Ftr I'm not even slightly dug in here. I want them to reveal it was a plan because that's even more awesome. Its like an awesome film they need to sell the rights to asap.

But you need more evidence than "his sister was also profiled and also if it happened it worked dude that's awesome you guys" as evidence. This ain't a redskins fan club here. Its barely even circumstantial evidence and the motive evaporates if you just have one cop not brutally arrest him in cuffs for no ****ing reason.

Cite the first paragraph please.

Read the recent posts itt for potential motive.

Brutally arrest?

Not to change the subject from Clock Boy, but I'm wondering something about the James Blake situation.


Shouldn't this be a slam dunk assault charge against the policeman?


Yes, the police are given discretion to use physical force when necessary. But that is clearly not the case here. Not only did they have the wrong guy, but it would have been excessive force even if it had been the right guy.

Suzzer, does the line of him thinking he didn't want people to freak out about nothing seem reasonable given 1) he believes his sister was suspended for doing nothing (I assume he would believe his sister didn't say she was gonna blow up the school and someone got her in trouble because the adults believed it so easily) and 2) the science teachers first response was 'cool but do not show this to anyone else'?

This is the suzzeriest thing to be mad about ever.

So he wanted to make a stir, but not too much of a stir, so, bring a bomb looking thing, but don't lock it in a box? This seems to be evidence that he knew some stupid people might act stupidly but not much else.

I would think so. It would even be excessive force if the right guy had been guilty.

It seems fairly likely to me that he wanted to get in trouble to prove some kind of a point. In his own words - he was aware his clock could be perceived as a threat. He knew he couldn't get any actual punishment because he didn't actually do anything wrong.

It may have been a valid point he was proving. But nevertheless the story changes from the one that's blown up in the national media of a Muslim science nerd completely blindsided by racial profiling.

There's also some kind of thing where has Dad was the "lawyer for the defense" for Terry Jones' Quran trial and subsequent burning of the Quran - which resulted in a bunch of deaths in Afghansistan.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...3oC_story.html (the connection here comes from NRO so I'm still looking for another source to verify this is the kid's father, feel free to refute if it's not):

It's funny what a different tone the MSM takes when they're not on your side.

Nowadays when kids get sent home for biting a pop tart into the shape of a gun - and you bring an item that you know might be perceived as a bomb - you don't think that changes the story just an itty bit?

You are just about the most useless poster on this site. Far and away the most useless non-ignorable poster.

I mean, he's not really wrong. You're connecting an awful lot of dots that don't really make sense together.

They wanted to make a point and sue, but not for too much, didn't want it to get too big. Okay, that doesn't really make much sense. I'd think they'd want their point to be national if that was the intent.

He did some stuff to make sure, in his mind, the adults around him didn't freak out when they saw it. That he's seen them freak out, and a teacher even warned him about others, means nothing and he instead did it to cause alarm. But not too much alarm.

He's also not a tinkerer but others have said he was and there are so photos that appear to show him as one but those accounts and photos don't mean anything because ? I dunno.

Maybe you can make a super post later and it'll make more sense but right now it seems to be a mess that's all over the place trying to blame this kid and his 'activist family' because they've already been victimized once.

The difference here is that when the poptart thing happened, every single person on the planet earth agreed that it was ridiculous. And also, that kid didn't get handcuffed and hauled downtown in a squad car.

Even a broken clock that looks like a bomb is correct twice a day. (Once a day for conservatives.)

que?

still waiting for argument clock boy is not a hobbyist.....and as an aside, what is he then....a plant by isis to test the soft underbelly of a school in ****ing Texas?????? Where are you going with this!

He was cuffed. For literally no reason. He wasn't resisting, he wasn't violent, they knew he wasn't a threat.
Cite what? The cops said he repeatedly told them it was a clock and he answered their questions. He didn't act suspicious because he openly showed his teacher what he did.

He didn't invent the clock. He didn't build the clock. He took the cover off a commercial clock and put the pieces in a box. Kind of a tweaker hobby I suppose.

Odd that people familiar with him recognize that tinkering isn't a new thing for him

I'm thinking you don't mean meth addict. How old are you anyway?

Yeah my pontifications on 2p2 are really victimizing this kid and his family.

Let me connect the dots for you:

1. In his own words, the kid was aware his clock might be perceived as a threat.
2. Both the teacher and police describe the kid as "not very forthcoming" about why he brought a clock (which looks kinda like a bomb) to school. Maybe they're just lying. But so far no one has really disputed that. Supposedly the police want to release the arrest and release record, which would contain the exact dialog, but the family won't let them. Because the kid is a juvenile they have to sign off.
3. Assuming that the kid basically clammed up and said "it's a clock" and "it looks like a clock" - which again hasn't been disputed - the teacher probably overreacted, but not in a way that seems massively outside the boundaries of common sense (given the crazy **** that happens at schools).
4. Assuming school policy is that any reported threat, the police have to be called - not much you can do about that.
5. The police handcuffing the kid seems like the biggest breach of common sense here - even if there is some policy. There's always discretion. But it would be nice to have the exact transcripts of what was asked by the police and said by the kid.

What all this adds up to IMO is the media ****storm is somewhat overblown, and the MSM has no interest in any further digging for facts that might get in the way of a good story.

Do I think the kid or family had some master plan? I doubt it. Maybe he was just trying to needle his teachers some - then got nervous when asked why he brought the clock to school.

But the story loses some of its emotional weight IMO if the kid sorta knew he might get in trouble for it and didn't really try hard to talk his way out of it. It's doubtful he gets invited to MIT and the Google Science Fair if he comes out and admits he was trying to mess with his teachers or prove a point.

I do mean meth addict. I watched breaking bad I am in touch with pop culture (lol ok not really). I am in my fiddies.