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07-01-2018 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
A useless wall isn't an "investment".
The wall obviously wasn’t the infrastructure I was talking about.
07-01-2018 , 03:13 PM
Trump said many populist things during the campaign, most of which were clearly untenable empty promises. His attention span seems limited to enriching himself and ****ing over immigrants and people of color.
07-03-2018 , 12:37 AM
what about the arguement that america needs immigrants because usa is only 4% of the worlds population and without immigrants things fall apart because it becomes impossible to deal with the other 96%?
07-03-2018 , 10:53 AM
We're coming to steal your jobs and ruin your wives' morals.
07-04-2018 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
A huge infrastructure investment was the only possible positive of a Trump presidency. And of course it now appears to be the campaign promise that trump cares about the least.
His plan was never a big Eisenhowerish public infrastructure project, but a privatization scheme. It was to supposedly use $200B in public money and $1.5T in private investment.
07-04-2018 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
Taking this to the next level - how about a country/industry sponsored city specifically for immigrants and asylum seekers from anywhere in the world? The city would be built around a manufacturing industry with the immigrant employees receiving housing, training, daycare, etc as part of the compensation. It solves the problem of freeing the immigrants from there home country and putting them in a situation where success is much more likely compared to entering a foreign country without a skill set.
What do you think most of these people are doing in the US?

If I could I would sentence you to working in a chicken processing plant for a year.
07-04-2018 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
What do you think most of these people are doing in the US?

If I could I would sentence you to working in a chicken processing plant for a year.
Which companies have set up campuses where the workers live and work?

The point is to create a company-sponsored complex only for immigrants, get rid of the vetting process at the borders, eliminate countries having to absorb the cost of immigrants, forget about validating political asylum - just find a location to set up an immigrant city to solve allowing them out of their countries without trying to enter other countries.
07-05-2018 , 12:42 AM
So, a system where people come here, do undesirable work for low pay like before but now with no chance of assimilation, upward mobility or equal rights under the constitution or freedom (excuse the term) to move about? Sounds familiar. Kinda like the days where we just “volunteered” people with chains instead of contributing to the unlivable situation they are escaping by disrupting their governments and funding their powerful crime cartels with our insatiable drug demand.

Crazy enough to work.
07-05-2018 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
Which companies have set up campuses where the workers live and work?

The point is to create a company-sponsored complex only for immigrants, get rid of the vetting process at the borders, eliminate countries having to absorb the cost of immigrants, forget about validating political asylum - just find a location to set up an immigrant city to solve allowing them out of their countries without trying to enter other countries.
This essentially happens, especially in agriculture. You're talking about company towns, with company housing, company stores etc. Something not too far from slavery in practice. This is common in totalitarian states like Qatar. Also like the Bracero Program. That was followed by Operation Wetb*ck, which is kind of where we are right now after a Bracero-like period of using migrant labor and giving them no permanent status and then unleashing the stormtroopers.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ration-*******

The asylum seekers you're scared of add to the economy. They are a net gain, not a cost. Adding them as citizens would make you richer. They commit crimes at lower rates than people born in the US. There's absolutely no non-racist/xenophobic reason in support of your position.

Last edited by microbet; 07-05-2018 at 01:26 AM.
07-05-2018 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
Which companies have set up campuses where the workers live and work?

The point is to create a company-sponsored complex only for immigrants, get rid of the vetting process at the borders, eliminate countries having to absorb the cost of immigrants, forget about validating political asylum - just find a location to set up an immigrant city to solve allowing them out of their countries without trying to enter other countries.
I know this is a long article, but it's good. Please read it and then tell me if you think we are absorbing the cost of immigrants or reaping (might say exploiting) economic benefits.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-chicken-plant
07-05-2018 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
One would think that with our need for major infrastructure work, our present low unemployment rates, and the desire and ability of non American citizens from south of the border to do work for a good price, there ought to be a win-win strategy to combine these factors and make most people happy. I provided the slogan. You guys can work out the details.
This looks like a lose-lose for Republicans, since they don't really support either policy.
07-06-2018 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
Which companies have set up campuses where the workers live and work?

The point is to create a company-sponsored complex only for immigrants, get rid of the vetting process at the borders, eliminate countries having to absorb the cost of immigrants, forget about validating political asylum - just find a location to set up an immigrant city to solve allowing them out of their countries without trying to enter other countries.

So you want them in a concentrated area like a camp where they can work?
07-06-2018 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
So you want them in a concentrated area like a camp where they can work?
We can have several gulags. Then once a year reap a few kids from each and they can compete in a special game where the winner gets freedom and full citizenship.
07-06-2018 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
Which companies have set up campuses where the workers live and work?

The point is to create a company-sponsored complex only for immigrants, get rid of the vetting process at the borders, eliminate countries having to absorb the cost of immigrants, forget about validating political asylum - just find a location to set up an immigrant city to solve allowing them out of their countries without trying to enter other countries.
I hear Germany has a lot of experience managing this sort of thing.
07-06-2018 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I provided the slogan. You guys can work out the details.
Let me summarize the details worked out so far ITT:
  • Create areas or company-sponsored complexes ("camps") where the immigrant population is concentrated to do undesirable work for low pay
  • Create a country/industry-sponsored city specifically for immigrants
  • Include the wall in the infrastructure program
  • An evaluation system that isn't based on corporate profit
  • Take away 14th amendment rights and public benefits
  • Sentence people to work in a chicken processing plant for a year
  • No assimilation, upward mobility or equal rights
2+2 isn't such a liberal echo chamber after all!
07-06-2018 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
Let me summarize the details worked out so far ITT:
  • Create areas or company-sponsored complexes ("camps") where the immigrant population is concentrated to do undesirable work for low pay
  • Create a country/industry-sponsored city specifically for immigrants
  • Include the wall in the infrastructure program
  • An evaluation system that isn't based on corporate profit
  • Take away 14th amendment rights and public benefits
  • Sentence people to work in a chicken processing plant for a year
  • No assimilation, upward mobility or equal rights
2+2 isn't such a liberal echo chamber after all!
Naahhh...

It's just the finest liberal and progressive minds available solving the world's problems.

Consider yourself lucky to have witnessed it!

      
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