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I'm Not Trying to Suck My Own Coctober LC Thread **Survivor White House Edition**

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10-19-2017 , 04:49 PM

#1026

StimAbuser

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Elon Musk is very worried about AI. Mainly because the first people to get it will have such an insane advantage on everyone else.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/04/elon...se-of-ww3.html

He's got a ton of stuff on it if you wanna google. I don't really share his view, but I also don't know even close to enough to have an opinion that matters, and I hold Musks opinion in high standing.

10-19-2017 , 04:58 PM

#1027

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by bobman0330

I'm personally not pessimistic about AI, it could do incredible things for us. It's just extraordinarily dangerous and needs to be handled carefully. Like nuclear power, but much more so.

And to goofy's point, you can be a libertarian and still think that the government has a role regulating the safety of nuclear power plants!

How? Like, how is an AI that's super good at strategy games going to murder me?

10-19-2017 , 05:01 PM

#1028

otatop

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

Two InfoWars supplements found to have high levels of lead

Kinda funny that the dude who tells everyone the government is releasing chemtrails to control them is suggesting they listen to him instead and get lead poisoning

Honestly I'm kinda jealous I can't just sell poison to dip****s, it's what anyone who wants to "detoxify their yeast" deserves.

10-19-2017 , 05:28 PM

#1029

Loki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

How? Like, how is an AI that's super good at strategy games going to murder me?

We've basically taught a parrot to talk, and people are worried that parrot might develop mental powers to murder people just by looking at them.

10-19-2017 , 05:36 PM

#1030

patron

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Also this is mesmerizing.

The Suns players must be powered by the same AI!

10-19-2017 , 05:45 PM

#1031

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

We've basically taught a parrot to talk, and people are worried that parrot might develop mental powers to murder people just by looking at them.

"Everything that can be invented has been invented."

"The world will never have a need for more than a few dozen computers."

"I'll never send a text."

(last one was me)

10-19-2017 , 05:47 PM

#1032

bobman0330

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

How? Like, how is an AI that's super good at strategy games going to murder me?

I dunno. Hack into your car while you're driving and cause a crash? Hijack a predator drone? Intercept your online order for recreational Viagra and get a Chinese chemical company to send you poison instead? Mine some Bitcoin and hire a regular hitman (or blackmail someone into killing you a la Shut Up and Dance)?

Probably the better question is why would an AI want to kill you, and I assume AlphaGo doesn't, since it's programmed to only want to make Go moves.

10-19-2017 , 05:49 PM

#1033

amoeba

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

We've basically taught a parrot to talk, and people are worried that parrot might develop mental powers to murder people just by looking at them.

If that parrot becomes fluent in all human languages 3 months after I taught it "Trolly wants a cracker", and I have no idea what other people are teaching their parrots, i think i can be justified in freaking out.

10-19-2017 , 05:49 PM

#1034

bobman0330

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

We've basically taught a parrot to talk, and people are worried that parrot might develop mental powers to murder people just by looking at them.

I think the better analogy is that you explained the rules of chess to the parrot Monday, it's currently undefeated against Magnus Carlsen, and you're mocking it because it doesn't have any thumbs.

10-19-2017 , 06:06 PM

#1035

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

paperclips.

10-19-2017 , 06:06 PM

#1036

JoltinJake

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

Totally serious. AI is ****ing scary, and it's crazy that the development of it has been turned over to advertising companies with no oversight whatsoever.

Yeah, AI isn't the type of technology where we can wait and see what happens. Once general AI is reached, there could be catastrophic (or amazing) results achieved within minutes.

10-19-2017 , 06:09 PM

#1037

JoltinJake

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

AI fearmongering bothers me so much. Somehow I doubt the biggest threat to man will be a goddamn machine you can just unplug to defeat.

You should read the article I posted on the last page. Once general AI is achieved, it may become thousands of times smarter than humans within minutes. Think our intelligence compared to a bug.

If the thing is programmed well, hopefully it's safe. But if you get a malicious actor producing one of these things, who knows what happens.

10-19-2017 , 06:12 PM

#1038

JoltinJake

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

How? Like, how is an AI that's super good at strategy games going to murder me?

The current type of AI (narrow tasks) isn't much of a worry. It's general intelligence AI that's the problem.

10-19-2017 , 06:13 PM

#1039

2/325Falcon

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Pumpkin rape culture itt.

10-19-2017 , 06:36 PM

#1040

ScreaminAsian

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

...which makes them dumber, which makes them believe his bull**** more and more likely buy his dumb products. it could be intentional poisoning i hope he's investigated and jailed

10-19-2017 , 08:34 PM

#1041

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

AI fearmongering bothers me so much. Somehow I doubt the biggest threat to man will be a goddamn machine you can just unplug to defeat.

Maybe you should read something written by someone with more imagination than you?

10-19-2017 , 08:42 PM

#1042

Victor

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Does anyone have a good resource on the current state of ISIS? I didn't even realize Raqqa fell. I figured that would be massive news. But I guess Trump vs. the NFL supersedes.

do you even all things considered bro?

10-19-2017 , 09:33 PM

#1043

zikzak

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We do not and can not know what strong AI is capable of, or what it will do. That's a pretty valid fear imo.

10-19-2017 , 09:37 PM

#1044

microbet

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We're probably not going to die by the entire universe being turned into paperclips or that would have happened already. See Fermi's Paradox.

10-19-2017 , 09:39 PM

#1045

kerowo

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Trump is proof there isn’t going to be time travel...

10-19-2017 , 09:50 PM

#1046

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor

do you even all things considered bro?

Can i just ****ing read something and not have to listen to a podcast or watch a video? Those things drain my life force.

10-19-2017 , 09:58 PM

#1047

uDevil

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I have no idea what AI will do or when, but all this talk made me think of the classic short story Instinct, by Lester del Rey, in which a future AI tries to reconstruct humans long after we've destroyed ourselves.

https://archive.org/stream/Astoundin.../n105/mode/2up

Quote:

At times like this, one could realize how good it was to be alive and to be a robot.

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10-19-2017 , 10:43 PM

#1048

Max Cut

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Not an expert on the subject, but seems like issues may begin to arise once you've created something that can learn (without bound) and build (including self-repair/modification/replication).

The bit that worries me is the time between when those thresholds are crossed and the time when the super AI understands things enough to go full nihilism and shut itself off.

10-19-2017 , 11:03 PM

#1049

JoltinJake

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Exactly right. That's why it's critical that the first versions have heavy oversight. We may not be able to see what happens and work out the kinks like we do with other technologies.

10-19-2017 , 11:08 PM

#1050

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Can i just ****ing read something and not have to listen to a podcast or watch a video? Those things drain my life force.

Personally, I find documentaries fascinating. Depressing at times but ultimately informative. Beats the hell out of relying on cable news for information.

Some of the ESPN 30 for 30 documentaries are on the lighter side of things. Just watched the one on the BC points shaving scandal. Given my interest in the mafia and love for Goodfellas, I found it very entertaining.

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