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View Poll Results: Who will NOT survive the month of October?
Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III
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John Kelly
8 12.70%
Jared Kushner
6 9.52%
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6 9.52%
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23 36.51%
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10-16-2017 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
And another thought is that here in the real world the way things are, whatever justice Harvey is meeting with at the moment is some anarcho-socialist justice. He can probably go produce movies in France, but he was probably going to be able to do that anyway.
I see your point to some extent, but that only shows the feebleness and pointlessness of justice disconnected from the machinery of law. Unless someone's willing to lock him up and give his wealth to his victims, he basically gets a slap on the wrist.

Edit to add that I like a wealth cap at $5 million regardless.

Last edited by DrModern; 10-16-2017 at 05:40 PM.
10-16-2017 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Was not a huge fan of original but am open minded but I have been hearing quite a few meh to below meh reviews on it so far.
I'm not a big fan of the original either. There's a lot to like about it but it is fundamentally pretty boring. I guess it's subjective and there have been reviews from people who found the new one boring, but I was not really bored at any point despite the long runtime. You do probably need a passing interest in cinema-as-art, it's not The Matrix or something with pulse-pounding action, there's no action at all for the first hour or so. That said, it's also not one of those critical darling films that real people don't like, RT meter is 89% critics, 82% audience.
10-16-2017 , 07:05 PM


Corruption, money, medical bills and maybe N. Korea have to be the only crossover between right and left. The rest are all liberal anxieties. I guess you need to get a little further down the list for "War on Christmas"-type fears.
10-16-2017 , 09:46 PM
It's depressing to see how scared the average American is.
10-16-2017 , 09:51 PM
The only thing we have to fear is the russian troll army.
10-17-2017 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by vaya
Can we stop pretending these people don't know exactly what they're doing? If you put a gun to this guy's head told him his life depended on correctly answering whether Michael Bennet burned an American flag, I guarantee you he'd answer correctly.
10-17-2017 , 08:22 AM
Meanwhile, on Twitter:

10-17-2017 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99


Corruption, money, medical bills and maybe N. Korea have to be the only crossover between right and left. The rest are all liberal anxieties. I guess you need to get a little further down the list for "War on Christmas"-type fears.
Some of these definitions aren't mutually shared though.

Take corruption. When the left speaks of corruption, they mean something on the spectrum from quid-pro-quo payoffs to regulatory capture -- the idea that big business, elites and corporations have used donations and other leverage to insert themselves into important bureaucratic or elected positions to do the bidding of a small number of connected people against public interest. Perhaps you'll hear strains and only strains of this on the populist right.

But for most of the rest of the right, 'corruption' means something on the spectrum of quid-pro-quo payoffs from Soros to ACORN and Antifa laundered through the Clinton Foundation to diffuse the power of the white electorate which is not what the Founding Fathers ordained in the 4th Commandment, and is exposed via James O'Keefe and Jesse Waters, if only the Fake News Media would pay attention, to more banal conspiracy and confusions involving affirmative action and Obamaphones only existing to keep black voters on the Democratic plantation. That's what they mean by 'corruption': inchoate conspiracies against white people, or poor people and/or racial minorities literally getting anything.

It's two mostly discrete ideas and we're not talking about the same thing, and the right-wing has whitewashed and turned 'corruption' into a dogwhistle for their normal tactics angering up old whites to whatever nonsense conspiracy theories they think is involved between Shadow President Hillary Clinton and the Other Shadow President Barrack Hussein teaming up with The Swamp to thwart Trump at every turn.

The failure of that Chapman University poll is not acknowledging the huge component of racists and morons in the American electorate and so they weren't provided options like "black people" and "shadowy Jews" as fears they could register, so they had to hit the "corruption" option since that's the closest thing on the list to what they're really panicked about.
10-17-2017 , 09:03 AM
I don't believe for a ****ing second that Americans are more worried about oceans and rivers being polluted than they are about medical bills or not having enough money.
10-17-2017 , 09:56 AM
LOL, Ron Paul is doing Bitcoin ads on TV now. For reals.
10-17-2017 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Kafja
I don't believe for a ****ing second that Americans are more worried about oceans and rivers being polluted than they are about medical bills or not having enough money.
Why? Because you can’t believe people can be unselfish? Also, false dichotomy much?
10-17-2017 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Kafja
I don't believe for a ****ing second that Americans are more worried about oceans and rivers being polluted than they are about medical bills or not having enough money.
"Let's not **** up our environment" is actually a wildly popular political stance across the spectrum. Which Dems have ofc failed to take advantage of.
10-17-2017 , 10:12 AM
Conservatives hate trees taking their jerbs almost as much as Mexicans taking them...
10-17-2017 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Why? Because you can’t believe people can be unselfish? Also, false dichotomy much?
That’s not how a false dichotomy works
10-17-2017 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
LOL, Ron Paul is doing Bitcoin ads on TV now. For reals.
Wow, goldbugs ditching worthless paper fiat currency for Bitcoin is going to be my new favorite thing. You don't even get the paper!
10-17-2017 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Why? Because you can’t believe people can be unselfish? Also, false dichotomy much?
Because 57% of Americans have less than $1000 in the bank, and I don't believe that they're more concerned with the environment, on any level, than they are with their own ability to stay alive?

I guess I was reading it as 'this is a list of what Americans consider the scariest things in the world, in order', not 'we asked a bunch of people if they are worried about [x], y/n', and here's how many said yes'. Because the latter is like...okay, who cares?

For example Americans are more afraid of identity theft (#14) than a nuclear weapon attack (#21). Which is like, okay, fair enough, identity theft is much less scary but waaaaaaaaaaay more likely, so although that seems weird it kinda makes sense.

But then they're also more afraid of sharks (#41), than racial/hate crimes, being mugged, murdered, raped, or 'dying' (#47). At which point...what purpose does this dumbass survey have on any level?

https://blogs.chapman.edu/wilkinson/...op-fears-2017/
10-17-2017 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Some of these definitions aren't mutually shared though.

Take corruption. When the left speaks of corruption, they mean something on the spectrum from quid-pro-quo payoffs to regulatory capture -- the idea that big business, elites and corporations have used donations and other leverage to insert themselves into important bureaucratic or elected positions to do the bidding of a small number of connected people against public interest. Perhaps you'll hear strains and only strains of this on the populist right.

But for most of the rest of the right, 'corruption' means something on the spectrum of quid-pro-quo payoffs from Soros to ACORN and Antifa laundered through the Clinton Foundation to diffuse the power of the white electorate which is not what the Founding Fathers ordained in the 4th Commandment, and is exposed via James O'Keefe and Jesse Waters, if only the Fake News Media would pay attention, to more banal conspiracy and confusions involving affirmative action and Obamaphones only existing to keep black voters on the Democratic plantation. That's what they mean by 'corruption': inchoate conspiracies against white people, or poor people and/or racial minorities literally getting anything.

It's two mostly discrete ideas and we're not talking about the same thing, and the right-wing has whitewashed and turned 'corruption' into a dogwhistle for their normal tactics angering up old whites to whatever nonsense conspiracy theories they think is involved between Shadow President Hillary Clinton and the Other Shadow President Barrack Hussein teaming up with The Swamp to thwart Trump at every turn.

The failure of that Chapman University poll is not acknowledging the huge component of racists and morons in the American electorate and so they weren't provided options like "black people" and "shadowy Jews" as fears they could register, so they had to hit the "corruption" option since that's the closest thing on the list to what they're really panicked about.
the corruption that the right and "conservatives" actually care about is welfare queens and food stamp "fraud", and sanctuary cities supposedly protecting and hiding illegals, and as just seen in the other thread, illegals using our roads, not paying fed taxes, and going to school..

I mean, look at all those posts by maulaga about welfare. wander over to brietbart and see how they rant and rave about illegals running up our deficit by stealing services such as school and emergency medical.
10-17-2017 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
Wow, goldbugs ditching worthless paper fiat currency for Bitcoin is going to be my new favorite thing. You don't even get the paper!
I heard that you can print out bitcoins now at home. Of course, you have to buy the paper for that first.
10-17-2017 , 10:56 AM
Also, only 10.7% of people are afraid of 'whites no longer being a majority in the US' (lololol blatantly too low) and 14.9% of people are afraid of 'technology I don't understand' (general lol)
10-17-2017 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
the corruption that the right and "conservatives" actually care about is welfare queens and food stamp "fraud", and sanctuary cities supposedly protecting and hiding illegals, and as just seen in the other thread, illegals using our roads, not paying fed taxes, and going to school..

I mean, look at all those posts by maulaga about welfare. wander over to brietbart and see how they rant and rave about illegals running up our deficit by stealing services such as school and emergency medical.
10-17-2017 , 11:01 AM
There is something conservatives do where they make a point of being for clean air and water. Trump made a point of it himself. We'll have the cleanest air and purest water ever or something. There's a lot that goes into this.

1. It's meant as code in a way that environmental problems must be local and never global/regional.

a) This allows for some areas to be clean for rich people to live in and for hunting, fishing, tourism etc while other areas are still dumps.

b) God wants us to be good stewards on the one hand, but it's blasphemous or something to presume that man can change the earth.

2. It can be entirely insincere and the environmental equivalent of having a black friend.

3. It can be genuine. Conservatives aren't born anti-environmentalist, they're made that way. Before the Kochtopus funded tea party movement many conservatives talked about addressing climate change. ( https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/03/u...te-change.html ) Other anti-environmental movements by the right required similar levels of propaganda. (Ozone, acid rain - https://www.amazon.com/Merchants-Dou.../dp/1608193942). So the concept of clean air and water is fine, but still, propaganda about unecessary regulations or corrupt scientists lying about pollution for fat grant money keeps republicans voting to poison the air and water.
10-17-2017 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TrollyWantACracker
I heard that you can print out bitcoins now at home. Of course, you have to buy the paper for that first.
In all seriousness, I assume you get some kind of paper certificate of ownership, cause ain't no way the oldsters watching Fox News are gonna use mobile Bitcoin wallet apps.
10-17-2017 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
In all seriousness, I assume you get some kind of paper certificate of ownership, cause ain't no way the oldsters watching Fox News are gonna use mobile Bitcoin wallet apps.
Has anybody made President Trump commemorative bitcoin tokens yet? And how do get on that Shark Tank show?
10-17-2017 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
That’s not how a false dichotomy works
What’s the term when a stupid either or situation is presented? You’re implying he thought there were more choices than (health care / money) and (environment).
10-17-2017 , 11:09 AM
I've been saying for a while - make it easy/safe for my uncle to buy bitcoin and it will take off 10x. Then crash 10x harder and probably bring down the economy with it. But the rise will be nutso.

      
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