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If Trump wins - How long does it take the average Trump voter to realize they made a mistake? If Trump wins - How long does it take the average Trump voter to realize they made a mistake?
View Poll Results: How long does it take the average Trump voter to realize they made a mistake?
1 day - 1 month
9 3.91%
1 month - 3 months
14 6.09%
3 months - 6 months
18 7.83%
6 months - 1 year
19 8.26%
1 year - 2 years
15 6.52%
2 years - 4 years
5 2.17%
4 years +
13 5.65%
Never
137 59.57%

11-15-2016 , 12:44 AM
Well, it would appear less than a week from what I'm seeing.

Small sample size ldo, but I went into World of Warcraft trade chat on my server, which is always flooded with Trumpkins, and I put out a little bait about how noticeably absent Trumpkins were now that he revealed literally every promise on the campaign to be a lie.

Dead silence.

That kind of trolling almost always guarantees some kind of "MAGA BITCH" response. But nothing.

The wind is out of these morons' sails.
11-15-2016 , 12:03 PM
Chiefsplanet still seems pretty energized.
11-15-2016 , 12:29 PM
Herman Cain on AM radio is more irate than I've ever heard him.
11-15-2016 , 12:40 PM
About what?
11-15-2016 , 12:45 PM
The media. Usual stuff.
11-15-2016 , 01:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Well, it would appear less than a week from what I'm seeing.

Small sample size ldo, but I went into World of Warcraft trade chat on my server, which is always flooded with Trumpkins, and I put out a little bait about how noticeably absent Trumpkins were now that he revealed literally every promise on the campaign to be a lie.

Dead silence.

That kind of trolling almost always guarantees some kind of "MAGA BITCH" response. But nothing.

The wind is out of these morons' sails.
or they are just waiting until after Jan 20th, you know taking a breather.
11-15-2016 , 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by raradevils
or they are just waiting until after Jan 20th, you know taking a breather.

Yeah because restraint and humility are the calling cards of Trump supporters.
11-16-2016 , 07:13 PM
eddie murphy saw this **** coming in 1983

11-19-2016 , 06:59 AM
Politico Magazine: What Trump Voters Want Now

A longish (but interesting) article.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...-collar-214466
11-19-2016 , 08:51 AM
It'll take a recession or major black swan that makes their lives meaningfully worse.

A few dumb statements and bad policies won't do it. You guys are dreaming if you think they realize they F'd up with anything less than that.

Look at the absurdity in the primary and GE, his support is rock solid whether you like it or not.
11-19-2016 , 09:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
It'll take a recession or major black swan that makes their lives meaningfully worse.

A few dumb statements and bad policies won't do it. You guys are dreaming if you think they realize they F'd up with anything less than that.

Look at the absurdity in the primary and GE, his support is rock solid whether you like it or not.
The results of the election have already transformed how Republicans (and Democrats, to a lesser extent) view the economy. All of a sudden, they see it as fairly robust with low unemployment, perhaps some flaws, but overall solidly strong in a relatively weak global environment. This is what Democrats have been trying to say all during the campaign.

http://www.businessinsider.com/repub...ection-2016-11
Quote:
The 13-point jump, according to Gallup, primarily came from a partisan shift after the election.

"The increase in economic confidence mostly stems from Republicans' more positive views after Republican Donald Trump won the election," said the release from Gallup. "Gallup has previously noted that Americans view the economy through a political lens. Republicans have had a dismal view of the economy — especially of its future direction — during Democratic President Barack Obama's two terms."

In fact, the proportion of Republicans saying the economy is getting better improved from 16% in the preelection period to 49% after Trump was elected. For Democrats, it did the opposite, falling from 61% to 46%.
11-19-2016 , 09:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by einbert
The results of the election have already transformed how Republicans (and Democrats, to a lesser extent) view the economy. All of a sudden, they see it as fairly robust with low unemployment, perhaps some flaws, but overall solidly strong in a relatively weak global environment. This is what Democrats have been trying to say all during the campaign.

http://www.businessinsider.com/repub...ection-2016-11
AKA we are all partisan dumbasses.
11-19-2016 , 09:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan C. Lawhon
Politico Magazine: What Trump Voters Want Now

A longish (but interesting) article.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...-collar-214466

The media loves stories like this and they have some merit obviously. When you get 10k people to show up to your events there is a lot of enthusiasm and I'm sure many do think Trump is their savior, but a lot probably don't. They just voted for him for a variety of other reasons.

If he doesn't bring all the jobs back to Ohio or end the heroin epidemic there, I don't really see them betraying him immediately.

I just think the "White working class is gutted and views Trump as the savior" thing is starting to get overplayed a little bit.

Like a **** ton of people just voted for him because they simply thought their taxes would go down and/or think career politicians suck.
11-30-2016 , 05:36 AM
We voted for trump because we don't want some wall st lobbyists running the country!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...dd0_story.html

Quote:
President-elect Donald Trump is planning to name investor and former Goldman Sachs executive Steven Mnuchin as treasury secretary, opting for an industry insider with no government experience to helm the agency in charge of the nation’s finances
Oh, about that....
11-30-2016 , 12:25 PM
His voters don't care and never will. The libtards are mad, and it makes them happy. End of story.
11-30-2016 , 12:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
We voted for trump because we don't want some wall st lobbyists running the country!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...dd0_story.html



Oh, about that....
Did you think he was going to grab someone off the farm to work in finance?

His voters won't care because this was Trumps campaign finance guy. It will piss the dems off more just because he worked on wall street.
11-30-2016 , 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riverman
His voters don't care and never will. The libtards are mad, and it makes them happy. End of story.
I've come around on this that only applies to some (a significant majority, but not all) portion of his voters.

It really seems like he got a small but very real and important chunk of low info working-to-middle class people who sincerely thought he'd "shake stuff up". They didn't really follow the campaign, the racism stuff wasn't a hook for them so much as something they didn't care about because they were white, but they really bought into a childish "Mr Smith Goes to Washington" view because they are so disconnected from actual policy discussion.

I think some of those people can be meaningfully activated, but the Democrats need to message it right to establish a way for them to turn on Trump in a way that exculpates themselves. Either it was an innocent but grievous mistake or that Trump tricked them.
11-30-2016 , 01:56 PM


Quote:
Humans of New York

“I grew up in the suburbs. I used to think that I could write a prescription for a poor man: ‘Get a job, save your money, pull yourself up by the bootstraps.’ I don’t believe that anymore. I was ignorant to the experiences of poor people. I’d invite anyone to come and meet the people who live in this neighborhood. Right now we are surrounded by working poor people. These are the people who sell your tools at Sears, and fix your roofs, and take care of your parents, and mow your lawns, and serve your meals. They’re not getting a living wage. There’s no money left to save. There’s nothing left if they get sick. Nothing left if their car breaks down. And God forbid they make a mistake, because there’s nothing left to pay fines or fees. When you’re down here, the system will continue to kick dirt in your face. You can’t pull yourself up when there’s nothing to grab onto. We aren’t paying our brothers and sisters enough to live. We want them to serve us, but we aren’t serving them.”
Don't worry - I'm sure killing Obamacare, privatizing Medicare and Social Security, ending overtime laws, killing minimum wage initiatives, and of course massive tax cuts for the wealthy - will help the working poor pull themselves up.
11-30-2016 , 09:05 PM
1. get rid of unions
2. abolish minimum wage
3.
4. tons of higher paying jobs with better benefits for workers appear
11-30-2016 , 09:07 PM
3. tax breaks for the jerb creators
12-01-2016 , 09:04 AM
5. Tax breaks for both elder care and child care.
12-01-2016 , 10:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by raradevils
5. Tax breaks for both elder care and child care.
While increasing taxes on single parents and increasing the cost of Medicare for seniors.
12-01-2016 , 05:20 PM
Rara,
You're not a complete idiot, so explain to us how tax deduction for childcare help the lower class.

I'll hang up and listen.
12-01-2016 , 07:02 PM
Not sure how much Trumpkins will actually care but rank and file Repubs finally getting what they've always wanted - being lorded over by a bunch of filthy rich people.
12-01-2016 , 07:08 PM
Tax breaks for the 47% who already don't pay income tax.

Quote:
Clinton's proposal is very different from Republican candidate Donald Trump's child care plan, which would provide most of its benefits as a tax deduction. In other words, such a benefit is worth more to wealthier taxpayers in higher tax brackets with youngsters in child care.
http://www.npr.org/2016/10/11/497570...st-200-billion

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 12-01-2016 at 07:14 PM.

      
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