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Old 09-09-2007, 12:17 AM   #26
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Old 09-09-2007, 01:21 AM   #27
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I bet there are more than most would think on first reflection. It's hard to account for the real political opinions of perhaps billions of third world citizen-subjects. If we could magically get everybody together, educate them on the issues, and work out something that everyone could tolerate, I don't think I'd be at all surprised to end up with something pretty similar to AC... perhaps AC along with quite a few large scale charity/security/infrastructure organization blueprints.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:15 AM   #28
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Old 09-09-2007, 11:41 AM   #29
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Anyone care to take a shot at an estimate? I'm curious about the total number of "Borodog-type" ACist's in the world -- that is, educated, productive people who have come to the AC philosophy based on reasoned economic and ethical considerations (specifically not counting the "teen angst" variety of anarchists).

I'm going to throw out the first number that comes to mind -- I'm guessing that there are fewer than a million such people in the world, total. How badly wrong (or how overly safe) do you think this guess is?
I'd say "fewer than a million" is almost certainly correct. I'd guess that fewer than 50 thousand is also correct.
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Old 09-09-2007, 11:47 AM   #30
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In mid august 2005, the average unique monthly visitors was 172,000 at mises.org alone.
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Old 09-09-2007, 11:56 AM   #31
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In mid august 2005, the average unique monthly visitors was 172,000 at mises.org alone.
Any we all know the requirements for viewing a website is agreeing with everything on it.
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Old 09-09-2007, 11:57 AM   #32
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So you believe that if we can get 10,000 people, we can stop paying taxes?
Depends on who those 10,000 are.
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Old 09-09-2007, 12:00 PM   #33
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What do you mean?
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Old 09-09-2007, 12:01 PM   #34
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Well.. What did you mean when you posted a (relatively) meaningless statistic? Did you imply that they are all or even a majority of anarcho-capitalists?
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Old 09-09-2007, 12:05 PM   #35
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Well.. What did you mean when you posted a (relatively) meaningless statistic? Did you imply that they are all or even a majority of anarcho-capitalists?
Can you answer the question?
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Old 09-09-2007, 12:21 PM   #36
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In mid august 2005, the average unique monthly visitors was 172,000 at mises.org alone.
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Well.. What did you mean when you posted a (relatively) meaningless statistic? Did you imply that they are all or even a majority of anarcho-capitalists?
Can you answer the question?
Yes, once you answer yours.
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Old 09-09-2007, 12:29 PM   #37
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That's moorobot. Propertarian was the other one, Ian.
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Old 09-09-2007, 12:53 PM   #38
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I think you can count the number of people who are ACists throughout the world on the fingers of the citizens of Luxembourg.

Only when it takes the use of all the fingers of the citizens of Austria, do we need to worry about the implications of AC on the well being of the world.

Thankfully, that day will never come.
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Old 09-09-2007, 03:41 PM   #39
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Well.. What did you mean when you posted a (relatively) meaningless statistic? Did you imply that they are all or even a majority of anarcho-capitalists?
Can you answer the question?
Yes, once you answer yours.

I made a statement for which you asked no clarification, instead you made a response. For that response I have asked for clarification. Why can't you give it?
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Old 09-09-2007, 03:44 PM   #40
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I think you can count the number of people who are ACists throughout the world on the fingers of the citizens of Luxembourg.
Luxembourg has roughly 480,000 citizens, which make for 4,800,000 fingers.


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Only when it takes the use of all the fingers of the citizens of Austria, do we need to worry about the implications of AC on the well being of the world.

Thankfully, that day will never come.
Can you clarify?
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Old 09-09-2007, 03:48 PM   #41
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In mid august 2005, the average unique monthly visitors was 172,000 at mises.org alone.
Any we all know the requirements for viewing a website is agreeing with everything on it.

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Well.. What did you mean when you posted a (relatively) meaningless statistic? Did you imply that they are all or even a majority of anarcho-capitalists?
Can you answer the question?
Yes, once you answer yours.

I made a statement for which you asked no clarification, instead you made a response. For that response I have asked for clarification. Why can't you give it?
Since you need everything spelled out like a 10 year old, why not. Your statement about the number of unique visitors to website is virtually meaningless unless you have some way of determining how many of those visitors are actually ACists. Do you actually think that all or even a majority of the 172,000 visitors are?
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:11 PM   #42
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Since you need everything spelled out like a 10 year old, why not.
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Your statement about the number of unique visitors to website is virtually meaningless unless you have some way of determining how many of those visitors are actually ACists. Do you actually think that all or even a majority of the 172,000 visitors are?
That's a good question. From experience I would say about half of the traffic comes from links/internet searches and the other half are from regular readers.

Regular readers from mises.org might not all be anarcho-capitalists but certainly they are Austrian leaning free marketeers (why else would they read it regularly).

Given that this statistic is only from one month and it's only from one (although big) website, and it was back in 2005, I think it's safe to say that one estimate of someone in this thread [50,000] is surpassed with a high certainty.
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:52 PM   #43
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That's moorobot. Propertarian was the other one, Ian.
Propertard's avatar was like Craig Biggio or someone, IIRC. And then I think he switched it to a black guy (whom I didn't recognize) towards the end of his career.

These statists seem to like to use avatars of other persons. I wonder if there is anything to that (or if the trend even exists).
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:10 PM   #44
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Since you need everything spelled out like a 10 year old, why not.
What do you mean?

You are just trying to bait me into a personal attack so that I get banned. The fact that you ask this question again proves my point that you aren't very good at understanding things.

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Your statement about the number of unique visitors to website is virtually meaningless unless you have some way of determining how many of those visitors are actually ACists. Do you actually think that all or even a majority of the 172,000 visitors are?
That's a good question. From experience I would say about half of the traffic comes from links/internet searches and the other half are from regular readers.

Regular readers from mises.org might not all be anarcho-capitalists but certainly they are Austrian leaning free marketeers (why else would they read it regularly).

Given that this statistic is only from one month and it's only from one (although big) website, and it was back in 2005, I think it's safe to say that one estimate of someone in this thread [50,000] is surpassed with a high certainty.

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Unfortunately being a regular reader of a website doesn't meet the criteria presented by the original reader.
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:15 PM   #45
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Since you need everything spelled out like a 10 year old, why not.
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Your statement about the number of unique visitors to website is virtually meaningless unless you have some way of determining how many of those visitors are actually ACists. Do you actually think that all or even a majority of the 172,000 visitors are?
That's a good question. From experience I would say about half of the traffic comes from links/internet searches and the other half are from regular readers.

Regular readers from mises.org might not all be anarcho-capitalists but certainly they are Austrian leaning free marketeers (why else would they read it regularly).

Given that this statistic is only from one month and it's only from one (although big) website, and it was back in 2005, I think it's safe to say that one estimate of someone in this thread [50,000] is surpassed with a high certainty.
Its a meaningless statistic the fact that you don't recognize that is pretty strange. You don't know anything about the demographics of that website. They could all be high school drop outs for all we know.
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:34 PM   #46
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Since you need everything spelled out like a 10 year old, why not.
What do you mean?

You are just trying to bait me into a personal attack so that I get banned. The fact that you ask this question again proves my point that you aren't very good at understanding things.
Is that the only possibility?


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Unfortunately being a regular reader of a website doesn't meet the criteria presented by the original reader.
I would beg to differ. Regular readers of mises.org are about as close to 'serious ACists' as you can get.

I don't see any reason for teen rebel 'anarchists' to read mises.org on a regular basis.
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:49 PM   #47
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Since you need everything spelled out like a 10 year old, why not.
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Your statement about the number of unique visitors to website is virtually meaningless unless you have some way of determining how many of those visitors are actually ACists. Do you actually think that all or even a majority of the 172,000 visitors are?
That's a good question. From experience I would say about half of the traffic comes from links/internet searches and the other half are from regular readers.

Regular readers from mises.org might not all be anarcho-capitalists but certainly they are Austrian leaning free marketeers (why else would they read it regularly).

Given that this statistic is only from one month and it's only from one (although big) website, and it was back in 2005, I think it's safe to say that one estimate of someone in this thread [50,000] is surpassed with a high certainty.
Its a meaningless statistic
That's a strange way to respond to what I wrote..


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the fact that you don't recognize that is pretty strange.
Oh, ok, I get it. The argument from poopoo-head.


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You don't know anything about the demographics of that website. They could all be high school drop outs for all we know.
You must not know a lot about statistics.

Besides, do you realize that mises.org advocates home schooling over public school? You must not know much about mises.org either.


If I had to guess I'd say you were a big state statist. Welcome to the forum.
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:51 PM   #48
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I don't see any reason for teen rebel 'anarchists' to read mises.org on a regular basis.
Really...? You seem to.
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:58 PM   #49
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mises.org advocates home schooling over public school
I haven't been reading much of this, but this caught my eye.

I'm curious, does mises actually advocate home schooling over "group" private schooling? I don't really understand why the distinction would matter to mises. And beyond that, I don't think I'd agree that home schooling would be the norm in an AC society.

I mean, does mises advocate I bake my own pizza too? I just don't see why homeschooling vs. private schooling would be of any interest to them. Maybe you could have just as easily typed private schooling when you typed homeschooling, and I'm reading too much into it. I'm just curious if you're suggesting mises specifically advocates homeschooling.
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Really...? You seem to.
What do you mean?
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