Lamb seems like he'll be a terrible Congressman. Hard to get excited about this one way or the other.

Any embarrassment for Trump is a win for humanity.

Also, help me remember, is this the seat of the GOP rising star who was on tape pressuring his mistress to have an abortion? I get them mixed up. Don't want to confuse him with the other GOP rising star who tied up his mistress then blackmailed her with naked pictures of it.

It's the mistress/abortion guy, though I don't think he was viewed as a "rising star". He's 65 years old.

Tied up/blackmailed guy is the Missouri governor, who definitely is/was a rising star.

The other thing to keep in mind this district is getting broken up (hopefully) due to PA Supreme Court ruling it illegally gerrymandered. So the outcome of this election means ~nothing. Almost feel like a Lamb win might be worse for the blue wave as it could wake. Repbulican voters up. Its probably ideal that he loses close and then wins in the 17th in November.

Didn't the PA Republicans draw up an even more gerrymandered map in response to the judges ruling? Also, have they dropped their idea of impeaching all of the judges?

Disagree with all of this pretty strongly.

Even if he wins he has to re-run for the 17th in November. This election means nothing. Most of the country wont even pay attention to it.

Also Lamb winning, like Jones winning will make the dumbass party leadership be like MOVING CENTER IS WORKING, LETS ALL MOVE CENTER.


In reality Lamb is a garbage, unqualified candidate. He shouldn't be celebrated and he shouldn't be representing the left

In R+20 places like Alabama and Pennsyltucky, the Democrats SHOULD be moving to the center.

This is a bad take. Lamb's shot to win PA-17 goes up significantly if he's also an incumbent. If he loses, he'll still run for PA-17, but will likely face some challengers in the primary, making him weaker and wasting $$.

NPR reported this morning that the GOP has flushed a cool $10 million on this guy's campaign. Seems like a terrible way to spend their money so I'm loving it.

Bollocks. Every seat that's flipped is a step toward ejecting Trump. Yes he's a conservative dipstick, this is PA, that's really the best option you're gonna get.

This guy will never ever vote to impeach Trump. He'll probably switch parties and become a Republican within 2 years.

There is nothing good about him. He hasnt put forth a single progressive belief. Yes hes better than Saccone. But him winning makes no difference to anything. Hes likely to vote with the GOP on most issues.

You want to celebrate it go ahead but its an error that he was ever allowed to be the Democratic candidate and its a joke if the party ends up wasting any money on him winning.

Put forth candidates everywhere who are actually progressives and let it sort itself out. If they lose they lose, but at least if they win we'll actually get real chance and not a Congress controlled by centrist Democrats who wont pass single payer.

You can't put a progressive in an area that voted Trump +20. Especially in an area that is heavy on coal mining. It's like having Mike Pence run for mayor of San Francisco.

Then we're better off letting those people keep voting Republican and focusing resources on other areas of the country that aren't worthless. If Lamb is able to campaign on his own and win then great but his win is not worth any Progressive resources. And he shouldn't be celebrated because he won. He should be immediately attacked for his many flaws.

**** u bro

You are still missing the point. He's running in an area that is +20 Trump. If he was the progressive candidate you want, the GOP would have spent $0 rather than $10 million.They would know he's never winning. We aren't asking for this guy to represent America. We are asking to take a small slice of Deplorable America and turn it blue in an election.

Isn't the idea to help defeat Lamb?

Conor Lambo via 1st round KO

No it isn't. Bernie Sanders crushed the primaries in many red states, so it is fair to conejcture that progressive values are more animating among the Dem base in those states. We already have specials with progressive candidates like Rob Quist who turned the R+16 district in Montana to R+6 and James Thompson who did the same in Kansas. Maybe running Republican-Lite is the correct play for this district - idk I haven't investigated - but the process is not as simple as looking at the Trump's margin (which y'know could be attributable to people hating Hillary Clinton's centrism).

We also need DVaut back to drop a textwall about the party's message and ceding ground to the rightwing.

A loss in a Republican heavy district would be a warning sign to republicans in vulnerable areas that they need to distance themselves from Trump, undermining support that is keeping him afloat amidst all these scandals.

Republicans are terrified of this guy taking another R seat so it can’t be all bad. Like getting moderate/conservative Ds into these districts is not necessarily separate from having more progressive candidates elsewhere.

Wooderson sounds like the kind of person who stayed home and didn’t vote for Hillary because she wasn’t progressive enough.

If my boy wins the papers headline should be “LAMB CHOPS SACCONE" right boyz? Lol I’m good.

Connor Lamb is actually running on bread-and-butter issues like unions and jobs and opioids, while his opponent is demonizing him and going off on Pelosi and Hillary. It's precisely the kind of campaign a lot of us here have been telling the dems they should run. He's also knocking on doors and putting up a solid ground game. In a lot of ways it's a reversal of the Hillary/Trump race.

Repub ads went from 65% mentioning the tax cut down to 0%.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...blicans-458276

Blue wave in 2018 if they’re running on literally nothing.