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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
Right to privacy is an extension of right to property.[...]
So if I own no property, if I don't have any rights of privacy? Do I have that correct? And this was just a bald assertion on your part, without any backing argument or explanation, correct? Why do you claim the two relate?
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If I own my body I am free to hide my actions from people[...]
And if you
don't own your own body, then what ???? And what the heck do you dudes mean by "owning your own body"? Let's see, you dudes agree that, baring the Star-Trek Borg "assimilating" you, that you always have possession of your own body, correct? And that possession is always legitimate, correct? So if your are always necessarily in legitimate physical possession of your own body... what possible, meaningful, or even intelligible distinction are you dudes trying to add by overloading with some legalistic concept of "ownership" here?
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I don't see why an employer would want to go the secret route anyway. Obviously I'd rather just hire people I can trust to do their jobs but failing that I'd much rather let people know I'm watching them and not have them **** about in the first place than have them **** about and have to catch them out, deal with reprimanding them etc etc.
What makes you think a boss is going to have either/or thinking here. Most non-Libertarians are not terminally unable to see the world as either/or, even bosses. The boss tells and shows the workers one set of snooping, but has other secret ways. A simple notice that snooping will be done, without details, in the "voluntary" contract makes anything in LibertarianLand all OK, easy game. Once the boss has "got the goods/ enjoyed the show/ got his nut off" watching the secret tapes, easy game to catch the same people off guard in other ways -- or not and continue enjoying the show.
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Originally Posted by greywolf
the practice of secretly spying on people is a largely a statist issue.[...]
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Are you really going to claim there are more police cameras secretly spying on folks now than there are boss cameras? And what about non-boss perv cameras? Haven't you heard that industrial spying dwarfs "statist" spying IRL? Good luck backing this assertion up...
Last edited by MissileDog; 12-07-2010 at 09:50 AM.
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