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Originally Posted by batair
You are falling for right wing propaganda. Identity politics was invented by the right and has been deployed by them though our history.
You could be right. I honestly don't know who invented it. All I know is I could never be a republican based on certain social issues. But I've been listening to more and more conservative view points since this election began trying to figure out how sane seemingly nice individuals could be pro Trump. And every single time I've raised one of their view points here (because I was having a hard time refuting something) I just got shouted down, called a Trump voter, a racist, xenophobe, etc.
I was going to respond to OurHouse's post about his mother. I don't accept that every Trump voter, or even racist, sexist, or xenophobe is a deplorable. I think liberalism for many (especially social liberalism) is a learned process for many who grew up surrounded by racist, sexist, isolationist rhetoric. Time will eventually show that the progressive left is on the right side of history with human rights and civil liberties. But they do themselves no favors in the meantime by being intolerant and shouting people down, instead of showing the way to people like OurHouse's mom. I believe they have done more to divide the country through their sheer intolerance and attempts to silence, label, and name call anyone who disagrees with them. Fly and +rep are perfect examples.
It's sales/negotiating 101. I used to spend a lot of time on the SMP forum trying to argue logic to religious people. The more you name call and the more insulting you get, the more they dig in out of principle. So you can either get satisfaction out of calling them illogical idiots (which I admit can be fun), or you can make progress by attempting to understand why they think A, acknowledging their reasons, and then calmly explaining why B makes more sense. It doesn't always work, but works much more often than name calling. Name calling is why so many sane people voted for Trump. They went against reason and dug in against the vitriol of the intolerant left.