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Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN

05-22-2015 , 01:07 AM
steelhouse, it doesn't really matter what you were taught. Police do not have the right to shoot people who run away or who resist arrest. Tamir Rice should not have been shot even if that gun was real. We have a constitutional right to bear arms!
05-22-2015 , 01:21 AM
Another proponent of small minimalist government showing his true authoritarian colors.
05-22-2015 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
steelhouse, it doesn't really matter what you were taught. Police do not have the right to shoot people who run away or who resist arrest. Tamir Rice should not have been shot even if that gun was real. We have a constitutional right to bear arms!
The police went to the park and thought the gun was a threat to them and the people and shot him.
05-22-2015 , 02:11 AM
You are not going to cut these deaths down unless you make it a 2 year jail sentence for a police officer to fire a gun. Also in Britain since there are no guns, the police do not need the guns.

Thus, if you want to cut the homicides, suicides, and other gun related deaths by 90%, all you have to do is end the 2nd amendment (which is not really valid anyways). All the air cells and BB guns would have to go. People can hunt with bows like the Indians.

As Bill Cosby said once, it is about the gun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfOf0sNSR4c
05-22-2015 , 02:19 AM
Lol "the police thought it was a threat" the kid was dead two seconds after they rolled up. Tactically they did the stupidest thing possible putting themselves at risk as well.

The first sentence in the above post is possibly the dumbest thing I've read all month.

Steelhouse, all you have to do to reduce shootings is: hire better cops, train them in de-escalation techniques.
Will this stop most shootings? Of course not, but it would be a start. Cameras on officers would help as well, but I'm not as for them as most but they might be necessary in the USA.
05-22-2015 , 07:35 AM
Another person of color was killed by police shooting. Still early in the investigation but thought it was relevant to post here:

http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2...t-readinteract

Last edited by raradevils; 05-22-2015 at 07:49 AM.
05-22-2015 , 07:52 AM
Lol at anyone defending cops creating a dangerous situation and ten shooting their way out of it.

Wait, no, not lol. **** you. That's what I meant to say.
05-22-2015 , 08:11 AM
Stricter gun laws would probably prevent most of these shootings. If you are caught with an illegal gun, it should be a 25 year minimum sentence. Then cops would be able to make the decision that most likely the perp is not a threat.
05-22-2015 , 09:13 AM
Combine the with making all handguns illegal for the optimal legal situation.
05-22-2015 , 09:13 AM
Also maybe make shooting children playing with toys in the park illegal to.
05-22-2015 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Combine the with making all handguns illegal for the optimal legal situation.
Except that will never happen.
05-22-2015 , 11:00 AM
The officer made eye contact with Mr Gray, he ran, so killing him was fine.

Seems legit steelhouse, you massive hypocrite.
05-22-2015 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by steelhouse
600 by officer involved shootings.

About 150 officers are killed a year.
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Originally Posted by steelhouse
I may have a problem, as many as 1000 civilians are killed each year by police officers either in custody or in jails, but 50 police officers are kill in the line of duty.
Are you having a conversation with your previous post?

446 people have been killed by police since Jan 1st. That doesn't include, you know like causalities... broken bones, beatings, excessive pepper spray/tasering, paralyzation.




It also doesn't include people killed in jails or the number would be much higher.

Record 346 inmates die, dozens of guards fired in Florida prisons

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In letters to the family, two of Washington’s fellow inmates claimed that several corrections officers warned the inmate that they were going to “f--- him up,” when they returned to the prison for their weekend shift.
“They were going to get him that weekend, which would have been on pick-a-***** Friday,” one wrote Washington’s family, using a slang version of the n-word. “It’s a saying that the officers have ... that comes from slavery when the master goes to the slave quarters on Friday to pick a ****** to hang.”
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Randall Jordan-Aparo died weeping and gasping for breath on the concrete floor of his prison isolation cell, naked except for his white boxer shorts.
Incensed that he had cursed at a nurse, guards at Franklin Correctional Institution in the Panhandle fired nine blasts of noxious gas into his 13-by-8 cell through a slot in the door and, ultimately, left him there, sobbing.

“I can’t breathe, I can’t take it no more, please help me,’’ he pleaded.

Five hours later, the 27-year-old was found lifeless, face-down on the bare slab. His mouth and nose were pressed to the bottom of the door, as if trying to gulp fresh air through the thin crack. His hair, legs, toes, torso and mouth were dusted with a faint orange residue, a byproduct of the gas. A paperback Bible was under his shoulder.




45 police have died so far this year

14 by motor accidents
12 by heart attack
13 by gunfire
Rest are misc like 9/11 related illnesses, 1 assault

So yeah it's like 450 civilians and around 15 cops killed by civilians this year.

Last edited by ALLTheCookies; 05-22-2015 at 12:00 PM.
05-22-2015 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Combine the with making all handguns illegal for the optimal legal situation.
Because the line between illegal and legal stops exactly how many people who routinely operate outside of the law? How is gun control working in Chicago?
05-22-2015 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MickeyB105
How is gun control working in Chicago?
Are you honestly not familiar with the arguments?
05-22-2015 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Black people make up ~13% of the national population but ~32% of those murdered by police, naturally racists think this is totally okay
It's pretty obvious (to anyone with a brain) that you are the racist here since black people are also more often involved in crime and commit more murders, relatively speaking. The murder perpetrator percentages are even higher as 32% for black people in the US. So it's actually kind of common sense that black people also have more altercations with the police, relatively speaking.

So, either you are a racist who treats black people like children by not holding them accountable or you are one of those Tea Party of the left types who ignore facts which contradict their worldview.

If you are a Tea Party of the left type I have a tip: go personal by using ad-hominems so you won't have to face the facts. But you could also just admit that you are a racist. It's easier because it's the truth.
05-22-2015 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies
45 police have died so far this year

14 by motor accidents
12 by heart attack
13 by gunfire
Rest are misc like 9/11 related illnesses, 1 assault

So yeah it's like 450 civilians and around 15 cops killed by civilians this year.
Here it is. Concrete proof that running from the cops is a grave threat to a police officer's life. 12 police officers have died on duty this year from heart attacks, many of those occurred as a result of jogging.
05-22-2015 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by breadandbutter
It's pretty obvious (to anyone with a brain) that you are the racist here since black people are also more often involved in crime and commit more murders, relatively speaking. The murder perpetrator percentages are even higher as 32% for black people in the US. So it's actually kind of common sense that black people also have more altercations with the police, relatively speaking.

So, either you are a racist who treats black people like children by not holding them accountable or you are one of those Tea Party of the left types who ignore facts which contradict their worldview.

If you are a Tea Party of the left type I have a tip: go personal by using ad-hominems so you won't have to face the facts. But you could also just admit that you are a racist. It's easier because it's the truth.
Can you post more about your world view, please?

Oh, they almost exclusively post in the rape thread? Going to enjoy these next few minutes.
05-22-2015 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Can you post more about your world view, please?

Oh, they almost exclusively post in the rape thread? Going to enjoy these next few minutes.
Ah the first ad-hominem. Jeez, I didn't think someone would actually prove my point in the first reply. I expected a more intelligent reply. Disappointing, I hope you can reply to the actual argument from now on.
05-22-2015 , 03:34 PM
Why do black people get arrested for drugs more than white people, even though they use drugs at the same frequencies?
05-22-2015 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by breadandbutter
Ah the first ad-hominem. Jeez, I didn't think someone would actually prove my point in the first reply. I expected a more intelligent reply. Disappointing, I hope you can reply to the actual argument from now on.
You don't know what an ad hominem attack is. I am genuinely curious why you think category A of people who commit crimes at a similar rate are arrested at a higher rate.
05-22-2015 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
You don't know what an ad hominem attack is. I am genuinely curious why you think category A of people who commit crimes at a similar rate are arrested at a higher rate.
What are you talking about? Black people commit about 50% of the murders in the US and are 13% of the population. They are more often involved in crime because they grow up poor more often and live in bad neighborhoods more often. Of course they are more often targeted by the police. How is this in any way not common sense?
05-22-2015 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by breadandbutter
It's pretty obvious (to anyone with a brain) that you are the racist here since black people are also more often involved in crime and commit more murders, relatively speaking. The murder perpetrator percentages are even higher as 32% for black people in the US. So it's actually kind of common sense that black people also have more altercations with the police, relatively speaking.

So, either you are a racist who treats black people like children by not holding them accountable or you are one of those Tea Party of the left types who ignore facts which contradict their worldview.

If you are a Tea Party of the left type I have a tip: go personal by using ad-hominems so you won't have to face the facts. But you could also just admit that you are a racist. It's easier because it's the truth.
Is this post supposed to be a template for what you're prescribing for the Tea Party Left? The ironing.
05-22-2015 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies
Is this supposed to be a template for what you're prescribing for the Tea Party Left? The ironing.
Ignoring facts about certain demographics out of racist reasons (treating people like children, without accountability, is racism too, and you'll find that many black people don't like this treatment at all) is worth mocking. I don't really care what name these people get to be honest.

It's not helping society progress. Instead we stay divided. I want understanding of issues instead of ignorant identity politics. Like for instance, the reason black people are more often involved in crime is simply because they grow up poor more often and end up in bad neighborhoods. Instead of fixing this issue we focus on fighting with eachother. I want this to change but the Tea Part of the left (or whatever you call them) types are often only interested in fighting instead of seriously wanting to discuss the underlying issues. Being honest about facts is step one.
05-22-2015 , 04:05 PM
Most liberals already know that black people commit more crime, and that they do so in large part because of poverty. A lot of the reason for the disparity in poverty rates is due to systemic racism. Who do you think you are educating with your hot takes?

      
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