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I'm amazed at how many people distinguish anger and contempt for murder depending on the offenders race. You want to call me the racist. There is no evidence of this killing being due to race. Yet, you pretend. Good for you. Murder is murder.

04-28-2015 , 04:09 PM

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lycosid

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Some of us think cops shouldn't murder people in their custody. Others are not quite convinced.

04-28-2015 , 04:09 PM

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Oh **** the racists are out en masse in this thread. Did somebody post a link to this thread on stormfront? Just completely overran lol how old are these accounts?

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04-28-2015 , 04:13 PM

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braves2017

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Originally Posted by lycosid

Some of us think cops shouldn't murder people in their custody. Others are not quite convinced.

Murder is murder. If you are not going to riot for the other 200 or so murders then one should not get any special attention. Objecting to rioting is not the same as justifying murder of a person in custody. Try to be a little more honest.

04-28-2015 , 04:14 PM

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Turn Prophet

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I'm burning!!!

04-28-2015 , 04:17 PM

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Dids

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When exactly were we excusing all the white murders?

The thing you seem to be missing is that cops don't tend to kill white criminals with anything close the rate at which they kill unarmed black people.

Trying to ignore the role race plays here is just trumpeting your ignorance (or you know, your other stuff).

04-28-2015 , 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Turn Prophet

I'm burning!!!

I can not believe I'm the only one annoyed at people trying to justify this violence. I can't empathize with their cause. I know majority of black people in Baltimore have zero interactions with cops, yet people want to be violent because of this? I'm sorry but there is no justifying these peoples actions.

04-28-2015 , 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dids

Let me spell it out for you. 99.999999999% of all interactions black and white people have with cops will not end in their death or violence. Forgive me if I do not riot when someone dies at the hands of murderous cops. It's a relatively rare occurrence. It's not ignoring the race issue, its keeping it in perspective.

04-28-2015 , 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by braves2017

This simply isn't true. With all due respect, cops should be held to a higher standard given their position of power and their mandate to "protect and serve". Yes all the other murders are tragic. But you simply cannot compare them to what happened to Freddie Gray in terms of how "a given murder" should cause people to react.

04-28-2015 , 04:26 PM

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ALLTheCookies

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Originally Posted by braves2017

It's a relatively rare occurrence except that there's only 2 days this year where cops haven't killed someone.

Tell me, do you think cops killing black people extrajudicially is a new trend in America?

04-28-2015 , 04:26 PM

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For those unfamiliar with braves' body of work, I would like mention that he thinks acknowledging white privilege as a real thing is a racial stereotype harmful to white people.

04-28-2015 , 04:27 PM

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Louis Cyphre

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Originally Posted by braves2017

According to your math every single US citizen needs to have an interaction with the police for every single day for a whole year before it will in death or even just violence.

Even you must admit that is a ridiculous statement.

04-28-2015 , 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Turn Prophet

Police unions have their fair share of scumbags to be sure, and if there is one form of union I might be in favor of abolishing, it would probably be police unions because their clout extends to the realm of life-or-death violence, which really does need to be kept on a tight leash by society at large.

But that said, it's absurd to suggest that unionized police forces are the sole or even primary reason that cop violence against civilians is going unpunished. Police violence exists in a terribly complicated matrix of:
- Politics, which would still exist even without the police unions
- Legions of cop defenders who excuse misconduct because cops have a "tough job," "split-second decisions," etc etc
- Racism, which feeds into the above two factors
And so on.

Well **** if you strawman someone hard enough you can dismiss what they say!

Of all the fixes proposed to attack this problem, the one that has a chance at quickly working is placing common sense limits on the gains that police unions have won. This means allowing bad cops to be fired much easier. This means removing various laws that allow police to become special citizens. It doesn't mean permanently abolishing them ffs.

04-28-2015 , 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies

There is 330,000,000 people in the US. There are bound to be **** that goes wrong on any given day across the country.

04-28-2015 , 04:32 PM

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Dids

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Originally Posted by braves2017

So basically Mike Brown, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Freddy Gray, and the several other black people killed by cops within the past two years are figments of my imagination?

04-28-2015 , 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by zikzak

For those unfamiliar with braves' body of work, I would like mention that he thinks acknowledging white privilege as a real thing is a racial stereotype harmful to white people.

You are lying. I've made no judgement on the truth values of white privilege and have made no judgement on its harm, other than it provides no value based on the fallacies it operates with in. Why must you lie? I never said it harmed white people. This is why you have no credibility. You cant even make an honest argument.

04-28-2015 , 04:34 PM

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Tomorrow they're playing the Orioles game at Camden Yards but they aren't allowing fans to watch

This bothers me more than it should. I don't have a problem with the city or MLB canceling a game over safety concerns but playing a game in front of no fans for the first time ever seems wrong. The events last night in Baltimore were not "historic" and the no fans game will mark it as so.

04-28-2015 , 04:34 PM

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MrWookie

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Perhaps you should look up how often Baltimore has to pay damages to victims of police abuse. It's more often than you think. And that only represents the people who can afford to sue and prove their case in court.

04-28-2015 , 04:35 PM

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braves2017

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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre

What the **** are you talking about? Do you have any clue I'm talking about motive to riot?

04-28-2015 , 04:35 PM

#1046

ALLTheCookies

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Originally Posted by braves2017

There is 330,000,000 people in the US. There are bound to be **** that goes wrong on any given day across the country.

You didn't answer my question.

04-28-2015 , 04:35 PM

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Dids

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Originally Posted by braves2017

There is 330,000,000 people in the US. There are bound to be **** that goes wrong on any given day across the country.

Sorry you're dead guys, sometimes **** just happens. Blown tire, stubbed toe, unarmed kid shot. Whoops.

04-28-2015 , 04:35 PM

#1048

chezlaw

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Originally Posted by braves2017

Murder is murder. If you are not going to riot for the other 200 or so murders then one should not get any special attention.

Do you think a specific instance can be a catalyst or some sort of final straw?

I'd totally disagree it's about one specific instance.

04-28-2015 , 04:36 PM

#1049

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by braves2017

What the **** are you talking about? Do you have any clue I'm talking about motive to riot?

If you actually look into why the protesters are protesting and rioting, Freddie Gray is only part of the reason.

04-28-2015 , 04:37 PM

#1050

Dids

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Like this mother****er is so ass ignorant that we can't even get past the first stupid to point out that it's a small percentage of the protesters who are actually rioting.

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