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Originally Posted by FlyWf
LOL this was a winding ****ing road, I did not see "HRC is racist" coming!
Well, what do you think? Not sure your age, but what were you saying about her when she was pro-life? How bad did you curse out Bill Clinton for being part of the 3 strikes law? If you were of age, were you as hard on them as you are on me?
Look, I'm not saying she (or any Dem) isn't light years better than Trump or any GOP candidate. But you gotta know she's a crafty, smart pure politician through and through. At the end of the day, she's gonna say whatever it takes to get votes.
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Lestat, if Dems aren't on the side of minorities, and the GOP isn't on the side of minorities, you gotta understand you can't then say that the vast majority of Americans aren't. If average everyday white people aren't racist, both parties wouldn't be racist. Understand?
It's hard to imagine that you go through life, sit next to people on airplanes, watch cashiers ring up your purchases, or even sit at a poker table, only to look around and think the majority of Americans you interact with on a day to day basis are racists. Could it be that I hold a much more vile view of racists than you do? Or do you have a much looser use of the term? Because if I think someone is a real racist, I cut my interactions with them. I won't do business with them. And whenever I hear someone utter a racist comment, I call them out on it immediately because remaining silent is to be complicit. So it must suck going about your daily life thinking you're constantly interacting and surrounded by all these vile racists.
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Nope! In the abstract, sure, you're willing to lie and say this. But you defended both birtherism...And given your views on Muslims, inner city(Chicago) crime, and immigration...
Really? More slander? Or do you really not understand that what I'm doing (or think I'm doing) is simply defending people's right to free speech. I think anyone who ever paid any lip service to birtherism was a complete moron. And of course I felt the AMERICAN judge (he was born in Indiana) was completely qualified to hear the case. I was merely pondering Trump's point. It's not too hard to imagine that if a guy who went out of his way to insult an entire ethnicity as being rapists and criminals, would be like, "uh oh" to find himself in front of a judge of that ethnicity.
My view on Muslims is that they are people who deserve to be treated with dignity just like anyone else. My view on Islam and the absurdity of religion in general is quite a bit different. My view on crime in inner cities is that it's terrible. I wanna say 400 people killed this so far this year in the city of Chicago? Most confined to just a few severely impoverished neighborhoods ran by gangs. It's a complex problem for the police, the residents, and particularly parents who can't even send their kids to school or let them sit on the front porch without fear of them getting shot in gang crossfire. Interesting your impulse is to shake some sense into that average American in the aisle seat, or the white waitress who serves your next meal in order to solve Chicago's inner city problems.
If you understand nothing else about me, understand that I'm above all for free speech, privacy, and equal rights for all. In the Sterling issue that you like bringing up, that was my first issue: A person has the right to say things in private even if they are racist and distasteful. I considered him the first victim (over his gf) even if what he said was racist. If I ever found out my girlfriend was recording what I thought was a private call, I'd be livid! So I asked; didn't this senile old man get kinda ****ed and pay a huge price even though he said some racist **** (even while repeatedly denying to his gf that he had nothing against blacks) on what he thought was a private phone call with his girlfriend? Those were my issues. Privacy. Entrapment. And trial by media. I did NOT agree with what he said, albeit I didn't think it approached anywhere near the level of racist remarks in Michael Richard's rant in a night club.
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What the **** is it about Trump that you think is racist? Dude seems like a total Stan.
Trump is an overt racist, which I think is much more dangerous than a Stan. David Duke is a hard core racist, which I think is more dangerous than Trump. To you, they are all the same. A racist is a racist. I want to stamp out the David Dukes and Trumps until there is no room left for them. No place they can go without being ridiculed and ostracized. I think we need people like Stan's help to do that, which he'd probably be more than willing to do if we just stopped putting him on par with the David Dukes of the world. Then we can fine tune Stan's sensibilities when it comes to the more subtle forms of racism he doesn't even understand he's a part of.
Last edited by Lestat; 08-01-2017 at 02:57 AM.