Idiots stick with myopic sterile answers (like racism is the single reason for all of minority ills) because they aren't able to parse out the complexities of a problem.

You can stick your thumbs in your ears and scream "la-la-la" all you want. Everyone who disagrees with you isn't racist. Repeating yourself over and over again doesn't make something true. Just like you and Fly can post a million more times that I'm a right wing Trump voter if it makes ya happy. It still won't be true and until you start recognizing our own government's role (and ~gasp even the Dems!) for a lot of society's ails, you're just spinning your wheels. People like you have set back race, LGBTQ, and women's rights back at least 5 years, maybe more. Fortunately, laws were enacted during the short period of improvement that will hopefully prevent much of a slide. I just hope they can hold up through this Trump era that people like you helped to create.

One is skin color and culture and the other is money and social status.

I never said (and often promulgated) that systemic racism is a huge problem among police forces. When it's okay to profile and stop people for no other reason than their skin color, you're going to get more interactions with police. More interactions = more violent altercations. But do you really think *most* good cops wake up saying, "I hope I get to kill me a black guy today."?

And why is that? Think it has anything to do with money? A black guy gets arrested on trumped up charges for what was initially some minor offense. He can't make his $200 bail, so he sits in jail for a week awaiting his court date. He also can't afford a lawyer, so some PD plea bargains down to some lesser offense, but still does time. Another upper middle class black guy (yes, they do exist) gets arrested for the same offense. He coughs up the $200 and hires a lawyer. You think he spends ANY time in jail? No. He gets treated the same as a white guy does with the same financial means. He coughs up money.

You guys don't know the inner workings of the system (although Fly claims to be a lawyer, so he should). The system is corrupt! It's all about money! You got money, you pay your bail, you pay the frivolous fines assessed, you don't go to jail the way a poor person (white or black) would. It's as simple as that.

I assume you mean *They're? I can't argue that. I'm sure there are plenty of racist business owners that practice discrimination when it comes to hiring black v white people and that needs to change. I'm not arguing that racism doesn't exist or that it isn't still a big deal.

lol I don't hate anybody. I'm just saying there is an economic war going on and even the upper middle class are starting to feel threatened. The 1% keep rigging the system and they're not going to stop until they literally control everything. Our government is ran by people like the Koch brothers. They are the ones setting the rules and electing politicians.

*their

****s sake

lol

Ah, to look back longingly at the great state of race relations in 2012.

Oh, and LOL.

BEING POOR HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CRIME. The sentence is "poverty", you are remanded immediately and not given a release date! For ****'s sake you loathe the poor, Lestat, it seeps out of your ****ing skin.

I mean, is that true, though? That's a thing you really want to be true, I agree. Because you're so ****ing racist it hurts your feelings to see OTHER racists being shamed.

Bro after the Carrier deal your mushy brained ass wrote about how Trump was a millionaire who cared for the common ****ing man!!!!

How when it was revealed that a billionaire who had a track record of low income housing discrimination would also say insanely racist thing you were in TEARS over the media's mistreatment of sweet old Donald Sterling, just saying what we're all thinking.

Oh for real, there are racists? Like who?

Donald Sterling
Darrren Wilson
Donald ****ing Trump

all don't qualify, and of course sweet Stan who just doesn't want eye sore cars on his neighborhood streets or a mosque in his development.

Yeah, man, I don't need ****ing lessons on class consciousness from a ****ing Trump voter.

Like, this isn't wrong, but how do 2 dudes elect politicians? There's hundreds of races and they can only be registered in one place.


Hmmm.


**** yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooou

Wasn't familiar with that Lestat post but I love how this is how it opens:

Dude you are not more liberal than anyone except some Trump voters

Lestat here's some more **** you wrote:



Lestat, that last one is the one I want to focus on. I guarantee, GUARANTEE, that whatever bull**** you saw about regulations that made you support Trump's "repeal 2 regulations for every new one" plan came DIRECTLY from the Koch Brothers. Guarantee. I can, with strong confidence, narrow it down futher to the specific advocacy group, that it was something from AFP.

Just like with Trump you've somehow internalized the idea that the Koch Bros are bad but not any of the ****ing reasons WHY they are bad, because you actually agree with them about most economic issues.

Lol shredded

I used to have him on ignore so havent seen most of those gems

Welp, their goes my argument, Racism isn't a thing fellas, we can stop calling Lestat a racist.

Yeah I wasn't commenting about your typo, Lestat had the audacity to correct you and still **** it up.

Was easier to quote your post than dig into Lestat's multi quote...

I much rather prefer a capitalistic society, but I concede that we're well past the threshold where pure capitalism can save us. The system has been rigged for too long. The disparity in wealth, too great. If you wanna go balls out socialism, I'm on board with that. But don't for second try to feed me this line of **** that the Dems and HRC have always had the backs of minorities.

Minorities are crushed under the weight of our current economic system. And guess what? Your party (and mine, whether you like it or not) is part of that system! So don't piss in my ear and tell me it's raining. HRC was hawkish. HRC was big banks. HRC didn't give a **** about impoverished inner city minorities insofar as it didn't get her a vote. Her husband was president when the 3 strike law was passed! And you can supplant Dems for HRC. They're one in the same. Now, are Dems a whole lot better than the GOP? Of course, and it's not even close. If you care at all about equality, you gotta be a DEM. There's no other choice.

But get ready. Because Trump will try to overthrow our government at some point. He will resist impeachment if it comes down to that. And all his merry soldiers will cheer him on. And the people you like to call hard core racists -not because they don't want true equality, but because they worry more about their own families and putting their own kids through college than they do about the plight of minorities and even low income whites - will once again have to choose. They chose Trump once. You really want them to still be with him when democracy comes tumbling down? Then keep calling them racists when what they really are is scared, and maybe a little selfish as the wealth gap keeps widening and threatens their own way of life.

Btw- I do define Trump and a healthy percentage of Trump voters as racists.

Right. I'm all for the Koch brothers controlling a government I already think is much too powerful lol.

I had the audacity to clarify what he meant. They are would've made more sense than their to someone who would use there, which doesn't fit at all.

If that's what you call shredded, what do you call it when someone actually wins an argument on merits rather than slander?

I shouldn't feed into your miscreations by dignifying them with a response, but I do not loathe the poor! Since you love quoting me, cite where I've ever stated any such thing. You shouldn't need to resort to slander to make a point or show someone is wrong.

I think you know perfectly well that I agree with you more than disagree and I'm sure that really irks you. I enjoy taking up contrarian views because your intolerance towards those who hold a different opinion than yours is the very definition of bigotry! And that irks me because you so love to rail against bigots, don't you?

And yet, more false accusations. What kinda law do you practice anyway? I know a current WH council where you could shine!

Oh so you didnt actually type all that bull**** that he quoted?

"Im not a right winger, i just spew the most common right wing talking points constantly for lulz!"

Yeah, that's some real right wing bull**** there.

The rest were mostly questioning points of view (particularly Sterling, which Fly will be quoting until the end of time. I think he has it copied and pasted for quick reference). Others pointed out where and why I was wrong and I stood corrected and changed my opinion. If admitting when you're wrong isn't good enough for you then you truly are one serious POS human being. Also, interesting to note that my opinion changed because of other posters who made intellectual points and not either of you guys who just like to hear yourselves scream to hide your own guilt.

"I support Bernie but I wish he'd stop going after big businesses and banks" is some good ****.

no, that's just bull****. in addition to all the AM radio bull**** that you engage in regularly

If you're responding to me, as a capitalist I don't generally like big government. But I'm not 100% capitalist. I agree with sensible regulations. I'm 100% with Sanders' take on going after big banks. I think it's absurd people didn't go to jail over the housing market fraud that led to 2008. The problem is, you/most seem to think it's just a GOP problem, when it's both parties. I do think Sanders does an excellent job separating himself from them.

But I also think we need to be very careful with regulations because common sense regulations breed smaller and smaller regulations. And who favors all these smaller needless regulations? Big corporations that lobby to install all these road blocks to knock away their competition. So as long as you have corrupt politicians (which Sanders is not a part of), who accept lobbying dollars, regulations need to be kept in check.

If you actually had to research what a bank will be doing with your mortgage and deposits, you'd be a lot more careful with who you bank with. As it stands, what do you care if your bank is ran by greedy thugs who take unnecessary risks with your money if the government will just insure your deposits or bail them out? The average person spends more time choosing a plumber than the bank they entrust with their life savings.

What's bull****? That there might be other ways to go about solving the real problems Sanders was willing to bring up and talk about? Your cryptic posts say everything about you. A triggered screamer who sits and shouts names at other people because you have no real points of your own.

Also, it's not entirely the fault of businesses. A business is supposed to try and make a profit. That's what they do! But if the government is willing to hand you millions (billions?) of dollars in the form of corporate welfare, are you going to turn it down?

My point is, regulations are a huge reason why there is no competition anymore. Ma & Pa stores cannot exist in today's business climate because big businesses lobbied for all these regulations that stifles their competition. Off topic a bit (because it's on a much lower scale, but shows how regulations are just a money producer for the government), but in some states you need a license to cut hair! WTF?! If you go to a place and get a ****ty haircut or pick up lice then DON'T GO BACK! D'oh!

Sensible regulations. Regulations that prevent companies from damaging public resources that belong to all of us like air, water, etc. Also, sure. Make sure restaurants, stores, airlines, etc., up to code for public safety. But you could probably do away with 90% of current regulations that are just ridiculous and unnecessary.