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I'll try again since you seem to not be able to understand.

Row said him having a black object in his hand is a reason the cop can say he shot.

I find that to be an absurd reason that is all too often given to open fire on someone. It's especially absurd when it seems like the person in this video is turning to flee.

I make other absurd reasons for the cop to shoot, such as his hand being a black object or his hands being near his waistband (another reason often given).

Do you understand now?

Do you see how you rushing in with your 'omg it's not about race!!' bit can be seen as incredibly dumb?

04-25-2015 , 02:44 AM

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The cop may be guilty. He may not be. All I know is from watching the 2 min video is that it ain't the way Phill described. It was worth pointing out and you were wrong to defend his statement rjoefish.

04-25-2015 , 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RowCoach

Well we will have to agree to disagree that holding a cell phone is a reason to shoot someone.

04-25-2015 , 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rjoefish

It's not an absurd reason. His phone in his hand can be used as a defense in a court of law. His hand being black can not.

I agree that reaching for the waistband is not a good reason.

04-25-2015 , 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rjoefish

Well we will have to agree to disagree that holding a cell phone is a reason to shoot someone.

Depends on the matter it is being held. If it is in the same fashion as one would hold a gun. I can see how a cop in the heat of moment can make that mistake.

04-25-2015 , 02:55 AM

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As an a priori (a priori mother****ers! I don't know if I'm using that right) that specific cop is terrible at his stated job. A ****ing assassin with a badge afaict from that video.

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04-25-2015 , 02:57 AM

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I think you just used it in the exact opposite way it means lol

04-25-2015 , 03:00 AM

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Also take note from that video at how aggressively the cop drives up on the guy, cutting thru the lawn and looks like he's coming close to hitting him.

Stated offense of the guy riding the bike? Riding it on the street.

04-25-2015 , 03:04 AM

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I'm not sure this is actually the same case Phill is referring to.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-reveals.html

Says the phone was all he had on him and he survived, but was paralyzed from the waist down.

Other articles say he had weed so maybe it is him.

04-25-2015 , 03:06 AM

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I love how the dude is running away when he gets shot, that's a nice touch by the cop

04-25-2015 , 03:08 AM

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Read the cops statements from the time:

http://m.palmbeachpost.com/news/news...ar-have/nZwTb/

Note that the video and evidence later refutes everything he says.

Video never picks him up saying put up hands or get on ground. The object is clearly in his hand the whole time. Nice use of 'reached for his waistband' too, who could have seen that coming?

Back on the job after 4 days. Shocking that he has a bunch of other force complaints.

04-25-2015 , 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RowCoach

"Cop shot a black man. Must be guilty. Lock him up, throw away the key." You And Phill don't give a damn about the circumstances or the facts of the case. You're prejudiced and you're ass would never be allowed on a jury and rightly so. It's a man's life and reputation on the line and you treat it as non-chalantly as the racist cops.

you really don't get it, its the rate of escalation that consistently shows the racism

if its a 70yr old woman with an unknown object is never treated as a gun, a hand going anywhere a gun could conceivably be is never treated as a gun

with black males everything is a ****ing gun, hand up fingers spread out ... mother****er has 5 guns

04-25-2015 , 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RowCoach

Any cop who shot someone in those circumstances is thoroughly unprofessional, even if what he did was legal. A cop's job is to deescalate and preserve the peace. The best cops are ones that minimize the use of force.

04-25-2015 , 07:37 AM

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Maybe you should check how many people of all races interact with cops every day and do not get shot. Some of you have no perspective.

04-25-2015 , 07:53 AM

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Did you really just go "what about all the black guys that don't get shot"?

04-25-2015 , 10:57 AM

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I missed that quote from Row last night but I guess it's pretty funny since I was the one actually looking into the facts and statements made by the officer. Unlike Row, I wasn't searching the video for any reason to excuse the officer's actions and ignoring everything else, kind or ironic really.

04-25-2015 , 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RowCoach

Depends on the matter it is being held. If it is in the same fashion as one would hold a gun. I can see how a cop in the heat of moment who is afraid of his own shadow can make that mistake.

FYP

04-25-2015 , 11:03 AM

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FYP

It makes sense though. Now I know why cops are smashing cell phones, they think they're guns!

04-25-2015 , 11:08 AM

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Did you really just go "what about all the black guys that don't get shot"?

That's been his whole thesis in Unchained. If there is a black person who isn't discriminated against at some point, you can't say that black people are discriminated against or else you are a racist.

04-25-2015 , 11:09 AM

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Yeah so today I saw dash cam footage of another unarmed black male gunned down for literally no reason. But wait, this was from three years ago so we already know the outcome, no charges filed, cop kept his job, turned out the black male riding his bike was carrying a small amount of weed and he also did that thing of reaching for a weapon he didn't have except that totally didn't happen on the tape.

but if that guy were an unarmed afghani, and instead of a handgun the cop had used a hellfire, then you'd be all "well he fit the profile, whatcha gonna do? gotta break some eggs to make an omelet!"

04-25-2015 , 11:14 AM

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Depends on the matter it is being held. If it is in the same fashion as one would hold a gun. I can see how a cop in the heat of moment can make that mistake.

Of course, there was only "heat of the moment" in the first place because the cop was harassing black men on bicycles.

04-25-2015 , 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pvn

Of course, there was only "heat of the moment" in the first place because the cop was harassing black men on bicycles.

No need to examine why all the heated moments seem to involve black guys. Once they are heated, anything goes.

04-25-2015 , 11:17 AM

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Of course, there was only "heat of the moment" in the first place because the cop was harassing black men on bicycles.

He'll defend this too somehow but note the officer's first statement on it: he saw a black man riding a bike in a known drug neighborhood and wanted to talk to him.

04-25-2015 , 01:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RowCoach

Is it this one?

If so, why do you fail to mention the victim's black cell phone in his right hand?

Granted, having a cell phone does not warrant getting getting shot but it's not as you put it, for "literally no reason."

RowCoach, as you make posts like this do you finally understand why only white people vote Republican?

04-25-2015 , 02:01 PM

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Again I'm not 100%, but in the press conference didn't someone claim initial autopsy showed the only injury sustained was the spinal cord? If officers slammed, kicked, stomped etc, wouldn't there be other signs of injury somewhere on his body? As for video, maybe there is video somewhere showing the complete
incident but I haven't seen it.

I heard the same thing.

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