Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN

08-18-2016 , 11:23 AM
Quote:
Probably by teenagers. IIRC, I posted about it just to make a point that Milwaukee isn't exactly a lily white suburb like most of 2+2 is used to.
Teenagers in lily white suburbs never get into mischief? You're trying to argue somebody starting a fire is it and of itself evidence that you live some hard life the rest of us only fear?
08-18-2016 , 11:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by drugsarebad
Good god this is ****ing horrifyingly racist
Except for the fact that it's in the context of talking about people who are/were incarcerated for those exact same things.

You guys are hilarious.
08-18-2016 , 11:30 AM
Dude, Inso, you were just telling us how you were scared to tell Obama campaign volunteers that you were voting for Romney because you feared property damage, and then you started talking about this particular fire. You'd have to expect your audience to be willfully obtuse in order to think that they would not interpret your second tale as evidence supporting your fear, that it was an example of the kind of property damage you would expect to be wrought upon Romney voters by Obama supporters.
08-18-2016 , 11:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dids
Teenagers in lily white suburbs never get into mischief?
My parents moved us to the suburbs in 1996. I didn't move back into the city until 2006.

During that decade in the suburbs, the most mischief I encountered was kids smoking a lot of pot and occasionally toilet papering or egging a house. Another favorite was to use plastic pallet wrap to wrap up someone's car.

A friend of mine once had the stereo system stolen out of his car, but the culprit was caught the next day because suburban kids are terrible criminals and can't keep their mouths shut.

Yeah, it's a different world 20 minutes west from the neighborhood in the above picture.
08-18-2016 , 11:45 AM
Yeah- I grew up in lily white America too, I was even a teenager in it. Sometimes people burned stuff. Kids do dumb ****. A damn brush fire is not evidence of "a different world".
08-18-2016 , 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrWookie
Dude, Inso, rabble rabble rabble.
Nobody is going to go read that thread for the proper context. You're wrong, but at this point, what difference does it make?

Remember, this was shortly after the enormous temper tantrum thrown by Wisconsin Democrats over the Walker Recall election. Property damage, bleached lawns, death threats, you name it.

This is also the same city where a sitting congresswoman's son went and slashed all the tires on 100+ GOP get-out-the-vote van tires the morning of the last Bush election. In fact, ol' Gwen Moore is still sitting there in Washington, embarrassing her constituents on a daily basis. She's my congresswoman, and won again a couple weeks ago with 85% of the vote.

"Take that **** to the suburbs, burn THAT **** down!" https://youtu.be/fjqhnSf0l-Q?t=32

But yeah, I'm the idiot for not wanting to make myself a target in a high-crime area where I'm outnumbered 5:1. Okay, Wookie.
08-18-2016 , 12:03 PM
WTF is it with these kind of posters and their constant need to overshare their life stories? It's like when wil kept going on about the BBQs he was going to.
08-18-2016 , 12:21 PM
Because reality is a matter of perspective, and you lefty clowns can't fathom how life outside of your protective bubbles might be a little bit different than what Tumblr and HuffPo describe.
08-18-2016 , 12:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
WTF is it with these kind of posters and their constant need to overshare their life stories? It's like when wil kept going on about the BBQs he was going to.
"Wtf it is" with these posters is thst you don't LIKE these posters and don't agree with them so you consider it over sharing as a way to mock them. "Wtf it is" is that you aren't a particularly honest or consistent person and apparently, based on this post, not a very self aware or insightful one either.

Don't you think the forum knows a lot of unnecessary banal details of the lives of a bunch of other posters as well? You know...the good type of posters.
08-18-2016 , 12:27 PM
Why do these people I don't like keep doing things I don't like?!?! So weird amirite
08-18-2016 , 12:33 PM
I can't fathom stupid teenagers starting a brush fire? Dude, your life stories aren't terribly interesting or unique. Living in a typical American city is not a rare life experience that you possess and the rest of 2p2 doesn't. There's no "AMA living in a city and sometimes interacting with minorities" thread in OOT.

Like, I get that you're afraid of black people. You don't have to post your home address to make that point clear.
08-18-2016 , 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inso0
Because reality is a matter of perspective, and you lefty clowns can't fathom how life outside of your protective bubbles might be a little bit different than what Tumblr and HuffPo describe.
I grew up in NYC, so I have plenty of experience with people of color.

And within that time, from ages 7-18, I lived on Staten Island, so I also have plenty of experience with barely educated racists (a few of whom I still keep as Facebook friends since they were my high school friends, even though the memes some of them share are pretty ignorant).

But thanks for telling us SJWs that we don't know what life is like in a world where white people have to live with the darkies.
08-18-2016 , 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by einbert
A high school diploma is not enough any more to be competitive in the job market--public university tuition should be free or extremely affordable for anyone who wants to get a degree. And for others, trade school or apprenticeships for free or extremely low cost need to be available.
Free college isn't going to help when you have massive school districts where barely half of students graduate high school, and far fewer than that can read at anything close to grade-level.

Talk about completely ignoring the actual issue here.


Quote:
Originally Posted by well named
One problem with your theory is that, according to CDC, birthrates of unmarried black women decreased from 1970-1998:

...

[lots of thought and effort]

...
Again, you do a great job of explaining what isn't the problem without providing any thoughts about what is. Taking the Fly approach of just laying this all at the feet of racism doesn't help, either. Racism isn't dead, but to call it a significant problem in 2016 is absurd. Writing checks hasn't worked. Consultants and task forces and research groups have done a great job at creating employment opportunities for themselves, but things are getting worse, not better. The problems of black Americans are not something that will be solved entirely by everyone else. But that seems to be the sentiment here and elsewhere in the Liberal hivemind.
08-18-2016 , 12:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Like, I get that you're afraid of black people. You don't have to post your home address to make that point clear.
You're projecting again.

Last edited by Inso0; 08-18-2016 at 12:45 PM. Reason: Also: definitely smart enough to make sure that pin was not the actual address. Please do not light fires at that house. =)
08-18-2016 , 12:45 PM
Racism isn't dead, but to call it a significant problem in 2016 is absurd.
Racism isn't dead, but to call it a significant problem in 2016 is absurd.
Racism isn't dead, but to call it a significant problem in 2016 is absurd.
Racism isn't dead, but to call it a significant problem in 2016 is absurd.
Racism isn't dead, but to call it a significant problem in 2016 is absurd.
Racism isn't dead, but to call it a significant problem in 2016 is absurd.
Racism isn't dead, but to call it a significant problem in 2016 is absurd.
Racism isn't dead, but to call it a significant problem in 2016 is absurd.
Racism isn't dead, but to call it a significant problem in 2016 is absurd.
08-18-2016 , 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inso0
Because reality is a matter of perspective, and you lefty clowns can't fathom how life outside of your protective bubbles might be a little bit different than what Tumblr and HuffPo describe.
Inso you're a morbidly obese gamer who thinks the knockout game is real. Lol at you accusing other people of living in bubbles.
08-18-2016 , 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inso0
You're projecting again.
Let me refute this by going on at length about the many scary black peolple I see around my apartment complex.
08-18-2016 , 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by miajag
Inso you're a morbidly obese gamer who thinks the knockout game is real. Lol at you accusing other people of living in bubbles.
Correction: FORMERLY obese gamer.

410 down to about 215. Hovering between there and 225 since January. I'm 6'7" so the weight is fine where it is, but I need to do more strength training.

McGriddles were goddamned delicious and it's unfortunate that I had to give it up, but I prefer things this way. Cut out carbs and sugar in case any of you fatties are looking for ideas on how to be less fat.

Knockout game is/was no less real than this ******ed "dab" thing that teenagers are all doing these days, and I think I have a fairly large bubble. I watched some documentaries about Rio this week and I definitely think I'd be concerned to hang out in many of those Favelas, but East St. Louis wouldn't be a problem for a week or two. Wouldn't want to move the family or anything, but I'm sure I could handle the day to day living without pissing myself, so don't you worry about me.
08-18-2016 , 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inso0
Because reality is a matter of perspective, and you lefty clowns can't fathom how life outside of your protective bubbles might be a little bit different than what Tumblr and HuffPo describe.
I live in a pretty ****ty neighborhood of Seattle. 3 guys got shot in a drive by this weekend a few blocks from my apartment. When I first moved it I had people trying to score either drugs or sex from my downstairs neighbor show up at my door at weird hours of the night. Some how I haven't turned into a paranoid racist.
08-18-2016 , 01:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WichitaDM
I'm completely on board with racism dating back to slavery being the reason for economic inequality between the races. I also have a hard time seeing the elimination of policing of drugs being something that magically fixes things ina nd of itself even in the long term even though I am for it. Someone explain to me what I'm missing and what other real world solutions there are that aren't currently being implemented. Personally I think an emphasis on making inner city schools better combined with the end of drug possession criminalization is something that could work but that is mostly just pulled out of thin air not backed up by any real world data.
The main problem is residential segregation. The solution isn't to get black people to move into white suburbs because that still leaves behind black neighborhoods that people can ignore. The solution is to look for ways to break up all-black neighborhoods. One avenue that I propose is to encourage gentrification.

If you want to improve inner city schools, I believe the main thing that can be done is to change school funding so that it is done on a statewide basis instead of relying on local property taxes that create disparities from district to district.
08-18-2016 , 01:11 PM
Quote:
Knockout game is/was no less real than this ******ed "dab" thing that teenagers are all doing these days,
Dabbing is a dance move that you can actually see on TV. (and not just kids, athletes, wrestlers, college football coaches have all dabbed)

The Knockout Game you can only see in the imagination of scared white people.
08-18-2016 , 01:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianNit
If you want to improve inner city schools, I believe the main thing that can be done is to change school funding so that it is done on a statewide basis instead of relying on local property taxes that create disparities from district to district.
Is this not common? Here in Ohio, state funds are allocated to districts that don't have high-value property tax bases. Some data I happened to have on hand:



Dublin has the highest average income and, more importantly, the highest assessed property valuations, so the bulk of their revenues come from local real estate taxes. Cleveland has substantially less of its revenues coming from local property taxes, and much more from the state level.

I've never looked at other states, but I assumed that most of them operated in a similar way. I guess that's not true?
08-18-2016 , 01:43 PM
Where it does it's controversial. They've been trying to shut down the "Robin Hood" laws for a while in Texas
08-18-2016 , 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spidercrab
I've never looked at other states, but I assumed that most of them operated in a similar way. I guess that's not true?
IL and WI do it this way.

Per-pupil spending in Chicago and Milwaukee schools is higher than most other districts in the state, but outcomes are much much worse.
08-18-2016 , 02:00 PM
How dumb do you have to be to compare the knockout game to dabbing?
One Nike used in a 8 figure ad buy, the other doesn't exist

      
m