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06-18-2015 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by adios
Echo chambers ftw!!!!
Yeah, I agree with this. Calling for braves's banning is wrong. His posting is certainly annoying, but at least some of the stuff he posts is substantive albeit, imo, horribly obtuse.
06-18-2015 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by braves2017
The cool kids tend to get this way when someone challenges their absurd positions. I guess the absence of dissenting opinion is something this sub forum has come to expect. I think that is telling of the cute little clique that has persisted for years. They want people like me to be banned based on their little mythical creations while ignoring the obvious lies and distortions being told by their friends.
We've got a kiddie pool next door you can go and pee in. I don't see why you should be allowed to pee in the grownup pool.
06-18-2015 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
Yeah, I agree with this. Calling for braves's banning is wrong. His posting is certainly annoying, but at least some of the stuff he posts is substantive albeit, imo, horribly obtuse.
Probably be less of it if he didn't have so many ? posts to respond to.

There not trolling apparently so not sure how to describe them.
06-18-2015 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
Yeah, I agree with this. Calling for braves's banning is wrong. His posting is certainly annoying, but at least some of the stuff he posts is substantive albeit, imo, horribly obtuse.
Eh, I suppose you're probably right. Church shootings in the news tend to diminish my capacity to suffer this hateful garbage.
06-18-2015 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
We've got a kiddie pool next door you can go and pee in. I don't see why you should be allowed to pee in the grownup pool.
I think anyone whose only contribution thus far in this specific discussion is to be critical of another poster while not elaborate on why they are being critical has no place to talk about the grown-ups.
06-18-2015 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Eh, I suppose you're probably right. Church shootings in the news tend to diminish my capacity to suffer this hateful garbage.
You do not get the entire reason I rail about this **** is because when real racist **** happens its not watered down by the bull**** you all try to pass off as racism. You people have trivialized racism to the point that not to many people take it serious. Racism has become synonymous with "political correctness" and that's not a good thing.
06-18-2015 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by braves2017
Abuse =/= Restraining

[ ] Money2Burn/Cool Kids understands the difference
Abuse and restraint are not mutually exclusive. I'm surprised someone of such superior intellectual capacities, who thinks on such high levels doesn't get that.
06-18-2015 , 10:37 AM
protip for braves: You wouldn't need to edit your posts so much if you cut bigger eyeholes. Or maybe just take your hood off completely when posting.
06-18-2015 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
Abuse and restraint are not mutually exclusive. I'm surprised someone of such superior intellectual capacities, who thinks on such high levels doesn't get that.
No one has qualified it as abuse other than to simply call it abuse.
06-18-2015 , 10:44 AM
Can you quote the definition of abuse for us?
06-18-2015 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by braves2017
I would agree that was preposterous but my guess is the cops were willing to take the help.
By which you mean there is probable video evidence of a white citizen assaulting a black citizen and the cop does nothing - so let's assume that is totally okay you guys.
06-18-2015 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies
Can you link the definition of abuse for me?
Only if you tell me whats more abusive...

Allowing a distressed, impulsive and irrational child engage in a physical altercation with a cop where a gun is accessible to the child or the child being forcefully removed from the situation?
06-18-2015 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by braves2017
You do not get the entire reason I rail about this **** is because when real racist **** happens its not watered down by the bull**** you all try to pass off as racism. You people have trivialized racism to the point that not to many people take it serious. Racism has become synonymous with "political correctness" and that's not a good thing.
The way the kids like to frame the debate as them being the good guys vs others who are all bad is childish but are you confident about the conclusion you draw above?

It just doesn't seem to be the case that racism gets trivialised to the point people don't take it seriously - even if were true that it gets trivialised it also seems to be that the problem of racism is getting taken a lot more seriously as a result.
06-18-2015 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
By which you mean there is probable video evidence of a white citizen assaulting a black citizen and the cop does nothing - so let's assume that is totally okay you guys.
preposterous = okay? What literarly planet do you live on...giving a potential reason why it was allowed is not condoning it, but keep making **** up.
06-18-2015 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by braves2017
preposterous = okay? What literarly planet do you live on...giving a potential reason why it was allowed is not condoning it, but keep making **** up.
You were making up ****ing excuses wholecloth for it happening!
06-18-2015 , 10:56 AM
Also, btw, disorderly conduct is largely one of those fake crimes that cops use to justify their actions. Being loud demanding a refund is a crime only when they want it to be and there is a proven statistical link between race and the use of these discretion laws.
06-18-2015 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by braves2017
Only if you tell me whats more abusive...

Allowing a distressed, impulsive and irrational child engage in a physical altercation with a cop where a gun is accessible to the child or the child being forcefully removed from the situation?
Ah so he had to assault a 12 year old because he was carrying a gun and she might get access to it.
06-18-2015 , 11:07 AM
You can't ban braves, the water won't carry itself.
06-18-2015 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
It just doesn't seem to be the case that racism gets trivialized to the point people don't take it seriously - even if were true that it gets trivialized it also seems to be that the problem of racism is getting taken a lot more seriously as a result.
I dont think so. I think there is a large percentage of non-racist people who roll their eyes when ever the news talks about race. People of color have shared this same opinion with me so I know I'm not alone in feeling that the media are exploiting this obsession by some to call all these interactions between black people and cops racist in order to paint cops as racist. There is no perspective. How many interactions occur each day between a black person and white cop that ends peacefully? Yet we want to talk about this "huge problem" with cops?

Almost exclusively every incident that's been talked about in this thread has involved white cops and a black person resisting or not listening to the cop. This does not always justify the actions of the cop but come on man.....there is an obvious correlation that does not include race.

Last edited by braves2017; 06-18-2015 at 11:16 AM.
06-18-2015 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
You were making up ****ing excuses wholecloth for it happening!
Well you've acknowledged the woman was acting responsibly by being disorderly and resisting. I guess its unfortunate it's against the law.
06-18-2015 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Also, btw, disorderly conduct is largely one of those fake crimes that cops use to justify their actions. Being loud demanding a refund is a crime only when they want it to be and there is a proven statistical link between race and the use of these discretion laws.
She was not arrested for demanding a refund. She was arrested for disorderly conduct and subsequently resisting arrest. You are pretending there is some ulterior motive for the actions of the cops with no real evidence.
06-18-2015 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies
Ah so he had to assault a 12 year old because he was carrying a gun and she might get access to it.
What made it assault? You did not watch the video did you? Hint: The cop she interfered with was not the one who pulled her away.
06-18-2015 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by braves2017
How many interactions occur each day between a black person and white cop that ends peacefully?
How many black church meetings occur each day when nine people aren't ruthlessly murdered?
06-18-2015 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by braves2017
I dont think so. I think there is a large percentage of non-racist people who roll their eyes when ever the news talks about race. People of color have shared this same opinion with me so I know I'm not alone in feeling that the media are exploiting this obsession by some to call all these interactions between black people and cops racist in order to paint cops as racist. There is no perspective. How many interactions occur each day between a black person and white cop that ends peacefully? Yet we want to talk about this "huge problem" with cops?

Almost exclusively every incident that's been talked about in this thread has involved white cops and a black person resisting or not listening to the cop. This does not always justify the actions of the cop but come on man.....there is an obvious correlation that does not include race.
Are you saying there are commonly cases that in your opinion are genuinely racist that get ignored because racism has been trivialised?
06-18-2015 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by braves2017
She was not arrested for demanding a refund. She was arrested for disorderly conduct and subsequently resisting arrest. You are pretending there is some ulterior motive for the actions of the cops with no real evidence.
Not according to the family's attorney:

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Clyde Bennett II, an attorney for the Dixons, said on Wednesday that he's advised the family "not to talk about" the girl's injuries, calling them a "red herring." He told the Hamilton Journal-News that regardless of the outcome, the initial attempt to arrest Krystal Dixon was unlawful.

“You just can’t go up to a person and grab them in America, even if you’re a police officer. You have to have a reason to do that,” Bennett said. “You can’t just say, ‘Come here,’ and snatch them. That’s unconstitutional.”

      
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