Ask the cop and maybe we can find out. You guys operate off of assumptions, I dont. It's a stupid question to which we do not have near enough information to make an informed decision. All we have is one viewable perspective.

once again you are bothered because I acknowledge it could be racism but am not convinced to call it racism. Why does it bother you all so much that I do not say "its racist"? I get it though, you cant reasonably or logical defend your conclusive claim of "its racist" with out outright acknowledging your own prejudicial and discriminatory reasoning so you attack my reasoning instead.

Why would these people argue with me then or make stuff up? I bet there are idiots who still think that I'm "denying" racism had anything to do with this. They do not understand there are three options, not two.

Lol Braves "I'm not saying the girl was to blame, its just she might hate white cops and her behavior helped cause what happened".

Yeah, howard beale is part of the cool kids clique.

What did the girl do that was irrational? She was walking away when the lunatic cop went after her and pulled her back and threw her down.

If you think she needed to say "sir, yes, sir" and walk away without complaint you shouldn't live in my freedom loving America.

Lol, no kidding. That's not where your insecurities lie.

No, no, you simpleton. Skin color, you have nothing but skin color to go on! READ WHAT BRAVES SAYS! Skin color doesn't cause other people to hate them, it's the other people's irrational minds. Those minds aren't reacting to clues and stimulus from the physical world like the color of someone's skin to identify race. You're not capable of thinking deep enough to understand that irrational minds wouldn't use skin color to identify a person's race and target them for prejudice.

Another article on this one:
http://news.yahoo.com/earbuds-bb-gun...122415856.html

Cliffs: Officers shoot guy with BB gun wearing earbuds, remove earbuds and place them in his pocket, then tell his parents he wasn't wearing them. Photo proves otherwise.

Oh, but they got an award:

Now THAT is a first.

NYTimes does a big write-up on the events around Eric Garner's death:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/ny...?smid=tw-share

Interesting tidbits from the sealed grand jury testimony in Staten Island, including that the prosecutors coached against saying that Eric Garner did not have a pulse when the medical assistance arrived.

Just beautiful.

The police are attempting the impossible in Garner type cases. They knew he was just selling cigs, leave him alone, imo, and it's the case that bothers me the most. I kind of feel bad for the landlord, having been one myself. I would have taken a different approach: I'd have asked Garner if he thought he could keep the drug dealers away. If he could I would have paid him.

Garner type cases result in a bazillion arrests without anyone getting killed, so not impossible. It may be impossible for there to be zero police abuse/brutality/murder cases though.

I obviously didn't make myself clear enough. It's the 'bazillion arrests' w/o clearing up the problem of ppl hanging out that's the impossible part. It simply can't be done.

And I'd bet good money that the LL is a decent one. He displayed pride of ownership by trying to clear his stoop. A slum lord wouldn't give a damn.

Also damned ****ing government trying to get every last penny of their huge cig taxes bec Bloomberg wanted everyone to live healthy according to him. It's like the worst crime in the world that they should miss out on, what, .01% of the taxes? Garner was filling a need, in my view. The poors want a smoke and don't have the $10/pack or w/e it is so he sells them loosies which, btw, are nothing new. The bodegas sold them for years for 25 cents as a convenience and there were not bodegas busts for that (there were for the numbers that they sold) that I know of. ****ing government leeches, mother ****ers.

Yeah, people hanging out on the stoop or w/e they have in NYC. I don't know if that's really a problem that needs to be cleared up, but even if they are committing minor crimes, obviously that will never go away 100% everywhere in any country that is anywhere near free.

Rand Paul brought up the cigarette tax angle of the EG case and establishment conservatives and establishment liberals alike laughed in his face as if it was completely unworthy of consideration. The fact is that for every law you enforce, no matter how minor the law, you're going to have a handful of outlier cases like Eric Garner where someone dies over it. The police has to enforce the law, and if the dude resists, the situation escalates. No matter how well-trained your police force is, occasionally things will get out of hand and someone will be hurt, particularly when the sample size is high. A careful reexamination of what laws should actually be laws is every bit as important as police reform.

I swear to God it's like Christmas came early.

LOOK at this dude.

Howard- Tha's weird, because I feel bad for the dead guy, and I've never been one of those. Funny how that works out.

Somewhere upthread I mentioned that of all of these cases I felt worst about the Garner case, you knuckle headed imbecile.

I was going through my headlines and saw the story about the cop not being charged for killing the 17 year old who was pulled over for flashing his headlights.

No Charges in Guilford Shooting

"You cannot flash your high beams at an individual within 500 feet," said Lloyd. "If you do it's a civil infraction."

Guilford says he flashed the Sgt. because he had his own brights on. The Sgt disagrees. Guilford can be heard on the video asking for the Sgt's badge number. He then starts recording on his cell phone.

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Wow, what a story with body camera, use of taser before use of gun and everything.

Why didn't we hear of this one before?

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I can't watch the video so I don't know if it's available to watch, but the article makes it sound like there's video of the guy attacking the officer.

This story reminds me of the "Don't tase me, bro" story of years ago.

hornbug, why don't you think we've heard about this case? It sounds like you're pretty enraged by it.

no, not enraged at all. Its just a weird string of events with a kid who expects to argue his way out of it, and a cop who doesn't seem to understand how 17 years old think and act especially when they think they are right. Go to youtube if you must, the conversation is fascinating.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7603484.html

Cop punches a 12 year old black girl breaking her jaw and breaks her ribs restraining her. Another child is maced, a pregnant black woman is assaulted and a black mother in charge of the children is assaulted by a cop.

They were told the group of kids (8 in total) couldn't enter a pool because one didn't have a proper swimming costume and the two adults asked for a refund.

Chief Wiggum praised his child assaulting cops for not using their guns. On the unarmed back children and adults. Whose only crime is resisting arrest. They were being arrested for being angry at not getting a refund.