The problem here is that if "racist" get's upgrade to mean "extreme racist" - ie someone okay with murdering black people in cold blood scott free - then have upgraded the meaning of the word to the point that all the types of racism that actually happens (the type you are talking about is trivial minority) don't get proper criticisms. Questioning whether one can even be racist without being this sort of extreme version completely minimizes the very real problems that racism causes in our society. This is a much bigger error than forgetting to add "classic" as a qualifier.

Do you think 10:1 odds is a good bet for your side?

i'm willing to lay 5/1. no ****ing way it's an acquittal. no action if prosecutor offers some BS manslaughter deal.

Nah I was thinking ~20:1 would probably be close to the real number (I base this off nothing but my gut). I think and hope he is convicted to the fullest extent but I don't think it's the 100% people seem to think it is. It obviously should be 100%.

Scott was pulled over for a taillight being out. SC law only requires 1 to be working.


http://law.justia.com/codes/south-ca...tion-56-5-4730

A Second Video Of Walter Scott's Murder?

I have a friend who lives in Key West, Florida. This friend points to a similar incident involving a police officer using a taser which occurred back in 2011.

http://thebluepaper.com/case-matthew...another-cover/

My friend posted the following commentary concerning the use of tasers. (TL/DR summary: There may be a second video/audio recording - in the possession of the West Charleston Police Department - showing exactly what occurred between officer Sleger and Walter Scott.)

Here is what my friend posted on a separate message board.

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Actually...you could say that he did have a 'body camera' of sorts. The
Taser he deployed has both a video camera -and- crystal clear audio
recording...which turns on *automatically* when the lock on his Taser
carrier is released: He doesn't even have to pull it out. Both the camera
and the audio run until the Taser is restored and locked into the carrier
-or- it runs out of battery power (about 20 minutes). The recordings are
tamper-proof. They absolutely CANNOT be overwritten.

In this case, the Taser was fired (plainly visible)...and the recordings
will reflect that with precise timing. IOW, every nanosecond of the key
encounter between shooter and the "victim" was recorded. Each cartridge
bears both a visual and electronic serial number. Each cartridge is
*required* to be signed for by the carrying officer...using a verifying
formula. Only qualified cops are allowed to carry a Taser: This officer
received a commendation for his stellar performance on qualifying tests.

I don't know, but it's my guess that this officer was charged, largely on
the strength of what the initial examination revealed in those "Taser-cam"
recordings: Note that it was the police department itself that preferred
charges. There is little doubt that this "bystander video" probably
hastened the action, but...the cops actually performed their necessary
duties as they saw fit. That doesn't bode well for Officer Slager...

On the subject of "Taser-cams"...this technology was required
by manufacturers legal department/insurers, to fend off claims made against
it WRT it's (im)proper use, a vital necessity.

How do I know this stuff? Easy. Those Taser-cams served (and still are
serving) as key evidence in TWO similar incidents here in Key West. In one,
a retiree from Michigan died as a result of a police "takedown". He was
"fleeing" (kinda) from a traffic stop...a "slow-speed chase" that involved
multiple officers. Some of the incident was filmed by a Colombian national
on his cell phone. But, the most damning evidence was provided by audio
recordings made (inadvertently) by one officer's Taser...that was merely
dislodged during the final struggle to subdue the guy. The city's insurer
settled for $900,000...but, at the request of the city's Citizen's Review
Board, the Department of Justice is investigating. Not surprisingly, this
incident opened up the sordid underbelly of the corruption endemic to Key
West. I could go on...

The second incident happened almost three years ago...only this "victim"
didn't die, though he might as well have. The responding officer actually
did "fire" his Taser to break up a fight, resulting in critical injuries to
the fellow who was struck. To this day, the lad is wasting away in a rehab
facility...with extensive brain damage. The Taser-cam recorded all the
relevant details, including the fact that the "victim" was not
armed...contrary to initial claims. It also revealed that the officer fired
the Taser contrary to his training -and- contrary to warnings firmly
affixed to the device. Naturally...his relatives have filed a multi-million
dollar lawsuit.

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I'm not even sure that actual KKKers support murdering black people for no reason. Somewhat anecdotal, but I checked Stormfront at the time of Eric Garner's death and a pretty large fraction of posters were against the cops. Compare to Staten Islanders, a minority of whom were in favour of an indictment. The typical Staten Islander is probably somewhat racist, but as racist as the typical Stormfronter?

What's more likely is that a substantial fraction of people are simply knee-jerk defenders of law enforcement officers. Racism can certainly exacerbate it, but a lot of people are just prone to believing that whenever a cop uses force they must have had a good reason.

I believe our state supreme court interpreted that law to mean that only one is required, but if you have two they must both be in working order

In the least apologizing or victim blaming way possible, let me just say that if I was a parent of a black kid in america the number one ****ing thing I am drilling into them over and over is complete, instant and deferential compliance with cops. It is just too ****ing dangerous.

In black families, having "the talk" doesn't refer to an uncomfortable conversation about where babies come from.

And black people get shot by cops while cuffed.

Hi Guys a question i ask the thread is what is the best outcome for this case for america to get change for the people caught-up in these tragic incidents:

1: guilty of murder.
2: Not guilty.
3: guilty of a lesser charge.
4: Not guilty on a technicalty
5: none of the above

I don't think there is any such thing as best outcome. People will forget about this when something else happens in the news to grab their attention.

Heard within a 60 second span on O'Reilly:

--a black talking head discussing that the big issue in the black community is black-on-black violence.

--Eric Bolling stating that since Blacks are over-represented in the prison population, it just makes sense that they would be killed more often by police.

The stop was probably legal, but crime must be slow if you're pulling over people for their 3rd brake light being out. Or it was profiling.

Of course the stop was legal. And up until he ran away the cop was very professional. He was probably going to just give him a ticket unless he had any warrants.

"The cop was very professional until he shot his gun 8x into the back of the suspect. All he wanted to do was get him to stop so he could give him a ticket!"

I put the over/under on this cop at 2.5 years in Club Fed an thats only because there is video. Life sentence, LOL, for a cop who killed a black man who was resisting arrest.

Another South Carolina cop murders a guy in his own driveway because the cop was pissed he would not pull over. A grand jury returned an misdemeanor charge of misconduct in office, prosecutors refile with felony firearms discharge LOL. Maximum 10 year sentence, he won't get near that as a first time offender.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1996338/jus...aven-arrested/

Was this either, or maybes a combo of:

1, on a video I haven't seen yet
2, sarcastic
3, your spidey senses about the professionalism of murder cops

?

this ain't grand jury bro. he's been charged and has no bond. he's on vid pumping 8 rounds into the back of a guy who was running away. and then throwing the taser on him to back up his account. this is pretty much unprecedented.

WTF is your deal? and 5/1 any amount that he goes down on murder (with-in reason), book it.

Hell, if you wake up in the morning, decide to go out and murder a random black person and you are not even a cop, you won't get ten years in prison.

"JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — In a hearing that lasted more than five hours Thursday, a federal judge sentenced two women to the maximum prison terms for their roles in the 2011 death of James Craig Anderson, the last of a series of white-on-black attacks.

U.S. District Judge Henry T. Wingate went out of his way to show relatives and supporters of the two women that their presence in the truck that ran over Anderson in a Jackson parking lot was not an isolated accident but the result of a pattern of racist behavior.

"I just wonder whether the hatred is just engrained for some particular reason," said Wingate, who in 1984 became the first African-American federal judge in Mississippi. "Then again, that's what race hatred is all about: whites who hate blacks and blacks who hate whites. It's just automatic."

Wingate sentenced 21-year-old Shelbie Brooke Richards of Pearl to eight years in prison after her guilty plea to one count of conspiracy to commit a hate crime and one count of concealing the crime by lying to Jackson police. He sentenced 22-year-old Sarah Adelia Graves of Crystal Springs to five years in prison after her guilty plea to one count of conspiracy to commit a hate crime."

that proves nothing. they weren't charged with murder. it wasn't on camera and the whole ****ing country wasn't outraged.

Where's ikes to defend Slager?

I was reading some of the comments on FOX. A woman was actually making the argument that since whites will be outnumbered by 2050, we need to do whatever it takes to make sure they are protected and if that means a few black people die, so be it.

I kind of doubt that prosecutors will offer a manslaughter deal or anything. From the comments and actions by police, this guy is obviously being thrown to the wolves. Like someone said about Fox earlier, once it becomes apparent that there's no chance of defending someone, the establishment switches to viciously destroying them to demonstrate that hey, look, the system works guys, no racism here. Unless there's genuine doubt of securing a conviction, I don't think this guy gets cut any slack at all.

Wow, what age would you start at?