Here we go again... (unarmed black teen shot by cop): Shootings in LA and MN - Page 128 - Politics and Economics

Protip: in a world where black terms are killed at a 20x higher rate than white teens, coming from the position "well if there's another possible plausible explanation for a killing then we can eliminate racism as a factor"....not a "neutral observation of the facts"

Your comment on Ferguson was "both sides need to give". What is the citizen sides had to give. How was the citizenry at fault and what are they giving?

Protip: learn to read before you criticize. Your quotes above are not even close to what I wrote. If anyone should be accused of not being neutral, it certainly isn't me.

As for Ferguson, my comment was based on moving forward and was directly related to your question about being involved in a solution. I guess I am sorry I actually tried to answer what you asked.

06-04-2015 , 01:15 PM

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No shorn7, you have to submit to the notion that racism is extremely prevalent in American society and the root cause of all problems perceived or actual. If you deviate even one degree from this indisputed truth, you're a racist. If you dispute this, you might be subject to one of wookie's cogent replies of "hahahahahahaha' or 'LOL' in his own forum that he's supposed to be modding. You might even be banned.

Yeah as has been evidenced in the last few pages just on his comments to me. I am waiting on the arbitrary ban part.

06-04-2015 , 01:22 PM

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ALLTheCookies

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Originally Posted by shorn7

Good job changing the subject when you don't want to look introspectively at your tunnel vision. I think Ferguson's black leaders engaging police by asking to set up monthly/quarterly meetings with police leaders to openly discuss ongoing issues might help to begin some change in the future. But all of you shouted that down when I first suggested it.

How do you know they're not doing that?

06-04-2015 , 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LetsGambool

Yeah, the fact that we actually have these magical things called "numbers" and "statistics" that let us figure things out without having to go anecdote by anecdote.

So you believe in numbers and statistics? No matter what the numbers say about crime, educational achievement, illegitimate births, poverty, etc you and people like you hand wave the data away and use the excuse that it's the fault of racist politicians, educators, judges, business owners, law enforcement officers, attorneys. Every excuse imaginable.

06-04-2015 , 01:28 PM

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How do you know they're not doing that?

I don't for certain but I would imagine we would have heard about it given the media coverage if it were a regular occurrence, don't you?

06-04-2015 , 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sweep single

What conclusion are you drawing here, just to be clear?

06-04-2015 , 01:39 PM

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I don't for certain but I would imagine we would have heard about it given the media coverage if it were a regular occurrence, don't you?

Uh, media? You think Fox is going to do a News Alert for black leaders meeting with police? Black leaders in Ferguson are very involved in achieving change, you just don't care enough to pay attention because it isn't shoved directly in your face to consume. This exercise shows your lack of seriousness so just stop.

06-04-2015 , 01:42 PM

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His contention was that both sides must have been at fault, that how the general citizenry is at fault in unknowable but certain since they must have done something to create the racist police problem, and that since every single member of the black Ferguson citizenry was unlawfully harassed by police there must be more to the story.

06-04-2015 , 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sweep single

An excuse for what exactly?

06-04-2015 , 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies

I don't watch Fox news so that wouldn't help. But good to know that they are involved thanks.

06-04-2015 , 01:50 PM

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Meeeeeetings! I bet they never thought of that.

06-04-2015 , 01:50 PM

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ALLTheCookies

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Originally Posted by shorn7

I don't watch Fox news so that wouldn't help. But good to know that they are involved thanks.

Whatever media you choose to consume is clearly not preparing you to have a serious conversation about this stuff. You have a wonderful imagination though

06-04-2015 , 01:52 PM

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Meeeeeetings! I bet they never thought of that.

Probably better than "Just tell the cops to stop being racist!!!!" which I bet is your solution. Or maybe you aren't even interested in a solution at all...that might take away your interwebs fun. Can't have that.

06-04-2015 , 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies

Whatever media you choose to consume is clearly not preparing you to have a serious conversation about this stuff. You have a wonderful imagination though

Lol like serious conversations can actually happen in this forum. HAHAHAHAHA

06-04-2015 , 01:54 PM

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What serious conversations are we missing out on?

06-04-2015 , 01:55 PM

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What serious conversations are we missing out on?

Anything where people look at situations objectively.

06-04-2015 , 02:01 PM

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Lol like serious conversations can actually happen in this forum. HAHAHAHAHA

Informed conversations happen and you're clearly incapable of having one on this topic.

06-04-2015 , 02:02 PM

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"well, I can't name what the citizenry did wrong or even speculate on anything that might have happened that would have helped create the Ferguson police racism but dammit both sides must be at fault"

OBJECTIVE LOOK AT THE SITUATION

06-04-2015 , 02:06 PM

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Anything where people look at situations objectively.

That's not a discussion, that's looking into a microscope and seeing the protozoa in Biology class. What discussions are do you think aren't being discussed?

06-04-2015 , 02:06 PM

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Except these meetings you are blaming black people for not holding have been going on since MLK. That you think that is some revolutionary idea that puts blame on the black community for getting shot by cops is funny

06-04-2015 , 02:07 PM

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Man you are such a buffoon...lol

06-04-2015 , 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LetsGambool

Having to go get an actual paper prescription to go get pills from the pharmacy seems on par with mandatory prison sentences for crack.

TIWRAB

http://sls.sdes.ucf.edu/docs/prescription_drugs.pdf

Here is an example of Florida laws.

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The penalties are the same as for heroin, and more severe than those for cocaine. For example, possession of between 28 and 200 grams of cocaine carries a mandatory minimum of 3 years in prison and a $25,000 fine—much less than the 25 year sentence and $500,000 fine for prescription pain pills.

You really should learn to keep your mouth shut since dont like to read and ****.

06-04-2015 , 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies

Informed conversations happen and you're clearly incapable of having one on this topic.

Sure they do. Guess it depends on what your definition of "objective" and "informed" are. But ok.

06-04-2015 , 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

Can you give us a set of criteria for when we're allowed to call something racist?

I would first have you learn the meaning of "racist" so you will stop confusing it with disproportional.

06-04-2015 , 02:10 PM

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Sure they do. Guess it depends on what your definition of "objective" and "informed" are. But ok.

By any definition, you are neither.

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