(First off, I'm a social liberal and fiscal conservative, so you know where I stand)

I was scanning the Kavanaugh thread and it was eye-opening. It seemed the only ones who posted were liberals. Now, I'm not gonna explain where I stand on that issue, it's not my point.

However, how in the world can you be liberal and then play a game which is the exact opposite of that belief system?

Just think . . .
1) In poker the strongest survive, and in fact, actively take the money of the weakest, isnt that what evil corporations and Republicans do? How can you support a game that literally takes the money of the less-able away from them?

2) Poker is the ultimate "bootstraps" game. You're all alone and no one helps you. You have to learn on your own and seek out help. There's no sense of community at the table, no one is rooting for you to do well.

3) None of the extremely successful poker players are declaring their cash winnings on their tax returns. They are living the "tax-loopholes" and "the rich need to pay their fair share" they cry about. (I know tournaments will force you to declare, but not in cash games)

4) Some will say, "it's a voluntary game, it's not the same" but no, no it's not okay. If you're a liberal and a poker player you're hurting other people every time you win.

5) Some people cant stop themselves from playing, they're addicts and by participating you're essentially part of the "drug dealer network" in a less vilified vein.

I just chuckle at the brutal hypocrisy of liberal poker players. When you're a libertarian, you accept these things as the ups and downs of having free-will.

But how do liberals cross that bridge?

i can guess where you stand on kavanaugh, mr social liberal

I stopped reading after the first sentence. Somebody let me know if the rest of this is a dumb and predictable as I'm expecting.

it sounds like you've compiled a lot of reasons to hate all poker players tho, so good job there

unless you think "hypocrisy wrt your politics and what games you play" is worse than "taking food out of the mouths of poor sick addicts"

Who the **** plays poker?

He says poker players bootstrap while unaware of the people begging for stakes to blow at the table.

lol at everybody here being a poker player. I haven't played in years.

Nobody here plays poker except rep

On a pile of disingenuous bull****?

[rest of post skimmed]

Nailed it

Smh at people here saying none of us play poker, as if this dude made a bunch of good points that just happen to not be relevant. He didn't.

I don't think anyone read past "However, how in the world can you be liberal and then play a game which is the exact opposite of that belief system?"

First 7 responses, not a single attempt to comment on the arguments

Seems about right.

I don't need to post my liberal-bonafides, you wouldn't believe me anyway.

Fact is, poker is about the most "unliberal" game and lifestyle there is

So as a liberal, you must dislike it.

Personally I’m too busy taking in the monies from the POKER BOOM to worry about this ivory tower nonsense

lol

Oh, a social liberal you say? I say **** off. Read this thread you POS.

Who said I voted for Trump?
Projection of bias much?
I can't be for gay rights and easier immigration laws, getting our military out of every nook and crevice on the planet etc AND be a fiscal conservative too? This makes me a Trump voter?

I'm for a much smaller government that lets people live their lives as they see fit (socially liberal) and a government that does not poke its nose into every aspect of it.

So, the liberal tent doesn't fit me? I thought it was a "big tent" party?
I've made this offer to all my liberal friends, "I'll let Michael Moore decide how to spend all our money but only if he can only spend 70% of it until we pay the debt off, and then taxes must be slashed in half for everyone and Moore can never spend more than comes in."

Is that liberal enough for ya?
But sure, label everyone who isn't exactly like you a "trump voter" and call em names.

You must be a joy to hang around.

Now back to the point, how can someone be a hard core liberal like Vanessa Selbst and Bonomo and play poker?

Where did I say you voted for Trump? And you say I project lol.

Oh you gaslighting? Try harder.

What other famous people do you think are too liberal?

Not to mention, I bet some of you so-called "liberals" even watch the NBA. How can you feed into the profits of an evil organization that profits off, and rewards, only the most genetically gifted in society?

I said I'm socially liberal, as in I believe people should be able to do what they want, as long as it doesn't hurt others

I'm not "liberal" in the current sense of "I hate all rich, selfish people" which is exactly what successful poker players are (and I'm okay with them being rich and selfish)

It's so hard to talk to liberals as this thread showed in mere moments after starting it. Instant name-calling and NO ONE addressed the arguments.

Way to go Liberals, you're really winning people over.
(I'm a Libertarian, I don't vote for Repubs since they spend as bad as Dems . . . so all your insults about being a Trump voter or a Repub just make me laugh)

But let's be honest, it's so much more fun to poke liberals since they are waaaaaaayyyyy too uptight and wound up in their own sense of their perfection and everyone else's failure to live up to their wishes.

No one is addressing you because you are gaslighting and we see right through it. Go to Cheifsplanet. It's more your crowd.

What's it like to hold your nose above the rest of Americans and act superior while knowing, deep down, that your beliefs have no constituency in this country and the vision of society you wish for has a much, much, much smaller chance of ever actually happening than either of those advocated by Democrats or Republicans?

Hoooooly ****, TWIST!! guys! he's a libertarian

It's not easy, that's for sure.
But I manage.
Thanks for the concern.

And like, when there are big elections happening determining important things about the future about this country, you...sit out because you can't decide?

Really? You're so smart, allegedly, but you can't pick out who's better between Democrats and Republicans? Too difficult of a choice for you?


There's just so much fun to be had with these "both sides are evil" people, it never ends.