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10-27-2018 , 05:51 PM
Just early voted in downtown ATL. 5 minutes, no issues. Only other person there was a poll watcher. Machine seemed to work fine, but perhaps the game is that they change my vote to Kemp on the back end.
10-27-2018 , 06:41 PM
I went to the polls and voted November 19. I was surprised by the turnout for early voting in a midterm election. When I arrived Friday afternoon there was a line out the door. I was in line at 2:00; finished voting at 2:13. Not too bad, but in my past midterm voting experiences there’s been no line. I usually just walk in, cast my vote, and go. Could be I just picked a busy time, but it seems voters are taking this election seriously.

There were only four races on the ballot: Governor, US Senate, US House, and State House. Three will easily be won by the Republican candidate. The US Senate race between Phil Bredesen and Marsha Blackburn is the only close contest. I voted for Phil Bredesen. He is a good man. Blackburn is a career politician and among the strongest supporters of and has been personally endorsed by President Trump. She’s been a Representative in Washington for sixteen years. Her campaign has consisted almost entirely of sound bites, buzzwords, and outright lies.
10-27-2018 , 06:43 PM
Voted in person today. Three hour ordeal all told, line all the way out the door, looked like heavy turnout on both sides but I only spotted two MAGA hats which surprised me. Some mid-sixties black guy was in the parking lot yelling about how "socialism has never worked anywhere" and to "vote red all the way." I asked if I could have his social security check and he pretended not to hear me. Once I got inside the building some guy told me that, if you had a vote-by-mail ballot, you can just drop it off at the polling place no sweat. No one from the county office informed anyone of this. With that plus the fact that we only get 9 days of early voting, I'll be looking at other options next time our supervisor of elections runs. Anyway I got to show my kid how the process works. Next time I will show her how voting by mail works.
10-27-2018 , 07:13 PM
Voted by mail for CA from Japan. Quite easy to register online and receive a ballot by email.
10-27-2018 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Here's my situation. I've been a US citizen from birth but was born in Canada and have never resided in the US. My parents are from New York, but they were "most recently domiciled" in PA.

I tried registering to vote by absentee ballot in 2010. I ended up with a Centre County Pennsylvania Certificate of Voter Registration with my address listed as the address of my parents' last domicile (which was 1965--I've never lived there). They provided me with the Polling Place where I could vote (a mere 6-hour drive away), but nothing about absentee ballots. By then the election was only 3 weeks away. I reached out to Dems Abroad but they had no idea what I could do, so I gave up.

I just decided to look into this again. I found that "In some States, U.S. citizens who are 18 years or older and were born abroad, but have never resided in the United States, are eligible to vote absentee," but PA is not listed as one of these states. https://www.fvap.gov/citizen-voter/reside

Does this mean as someone who was born a US citizen, has a US Passport, SSN, registered for the draft, and dutifully sends my FBAR and 1040 to the IRA every year, I am not allowed to vote, even in presidential elections, because PA won't let me? This seems extremely unfair as I am white and have photo ID. If I am still eligible to vote for president and just not in PA elections, then can someone tell me what I need to do?
I don't know much, nothing really, about voting laws, but it seems messed up to me that an American citizen can be disenfranchised just because of the state you live in. It sucks but maybe you need a lawyer to help you cut through the BS? Maybe contact the PA ACLU, or even someone like Greg Palast?
10-27-2018 , 09:24 PM
Filled out my absentee ballot
(VA doesn't do early voting)
10-27-2018 , 09:38 PM
Voted today in Maryland.
10-28-2018 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
What's your phone number?
I am old so it’s 867-5309, ldo.
10-28-2018 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by uDevil
Yes, I voted. Don't text me, bro.

I voted by mail. Just checked to see if it was received.
Woo! It's nice they let you track it. We have that in WA too.

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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
I did it i voted. wasn't easy. sigh of relief. next time I hope you all help me vote.
LOL, glad you perservered.

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Originally Posted by skydiver8
Yep. voted straight D where I could (some local stuff had 2 R candidates due to California's top two primary).

We have a guy running for school board in my town who has about a million signs all over touting him as "A True Conservative". That was a hard pass for me. IMHO, school boards shouldn't be partisan, plus, the fact that he has a million signs all over makes me suspicious about his funding.

Obv voted for Ammar Campa-Najjar over criminally indicted Duncan Hunter.

As for the props, I basically looked at what the CA republican party endorsed and voted opposite them (except the ones they were neutral on) **** the republicans.
I can't believe hunter is polling +8. what an *******.

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Originally Posted by pvn
Voted this morning. Early voting in my county only has like 3 locations, but luckily one is less than a mile from my house. I drive by basically every day and the lines have been brutal. Got there when they opened this morning, no wait.
JFC in person voting is so bad. We need to all vote by mail.

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Originally Posted by NMcNasty
Just sent in my absentee ballot, straight dem in Pa. Receiving ballot was pretty fast and they gave clear instructions with return envelope so everything was cake.
Woo! Looks like you have exactly 2 competitive districts - the 10th and the 3rd.

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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Voted by mail in CA. Rohrbacher better lose.
Thanks! Should be a sweat

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Originally Posted by m_reed05
Voted today. Got an absentee mail ballot. Filled it out and then my daughter got ahold of the envelope it's supposed to go in and ripped it. Not taking any chances I dropped it off at the early voting location today and made sure it was OK. There were 0 people at the early voting location at 11:00 on a Saturday. I live in a small town in Ohio... trumpkin hell.

The ballot said to make sure you fold along original creases, and that the ballot had to go in the specific signed envelope they provide. But if you fold along the original creases, it didn't fit in the envelope they provided.

Ohio has an issue on the ballot to reduce prison sentences especially for drug possession. Possession would be a misdemeanor and jail time prohibited until third offense. Steer things more toward rehabilitation, work programs, etc. I can't imagine it has a chance in hell of passing in Ohio.

I voted for it and straight Democrat. They don't label judges by party on the ballot so I had to look those up.
Thanks! Fingers crossed for Cordray. I didn't realize Kasich was term limited and figured he was just gearing up for a 2020 primary challenge.

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Originally Posted by gregorio
Here's my situation. I've been a US citizen from birth but was born in Canada and have never resided in the US. My parents are from New York, but they were "most recently domiciled" in PA.

I tried registering to vote by absentee ballot in 2010. I ended up with a Centre County Pennsylvania Certificate of Voter Registration with my address listed as the address of my parents' last domicile (which was 1965--I've never lived there). They provided me with the Polling Place where I could vote (a mere 6-hour drive away), but nothing about absentee ballots. By then the election was only 3 weeks away. I reached out to Dems Abroad but they had no idea what I could do, so I gave up.

I just decided to look into this again. I found that "In some States, U.S. citizens who are 18 years or older and were born abroad, but have never resided in the United States, are eligible to vote absentee," but PA is not listed as one of these states. https://www.fvap.gov/citizen-voter/reside

Does this mean as someone who was born a US citizen, has a US Passport, SSN, registered for the draft, and dutifully sends my FBAR and 1040 to the IRA every year, I am not allowed to vote, even in presidential elections, because PA won't let me? This seems extremely unfair as I am white and have photo ID. If I am still eligible to vote for president and just not in PA elections, then can someone tell me what I need to do?
This can't possibly be correct. As other suggested I would recommend you reach out the the ACLU. All americans (with the exception of some felons) hav the right to vote.

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Originally Posted by DWetzel
Early voted in person today at the rec center two blocks from my house. No waiting. Only moderately interesting race is the US House race (which is polling about 52-48 for the Republican toad). Straight Dem except for one nominally Republican judge who did a great job organizing the boy scout troop popcorn sales last year and seems like an OK dude in general.
Thanks! Good luck to the underdog dem.

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Originally Posted by TheDuker
Same. I like this feature where you can at least in theory check that your mailed ballot was received and counted.

There's a prop in AZ for a constitutional amendment to prohibit new taxes on "services". The well-funded supporting group is called "Citizens for Fair Tax Policy" and their ads are all scare-mongering about big new taxes coming on everything from haircuts to plumbers to childcare.

It turns out this group is controlled by realtors and all they care about is that their real estate services never get taxed.

To add confusion, the proposition is opposed by both major candidates for Governor as well as by Americans for Properity (Koch-funded libertarian douchebags). It will probably pass anyway.
Of course. Real estate agents have such a weird business model.

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Originally Posted by JordanIB
Just early voted in downtown ATL. 5 minutes, no issues. Only other person there was a poll watcher. Machine seemed to work fine, but perhaps the game is that they change my vote to Kemp on the back end.
God Kemp is such a tool. Thanks for voting.

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Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
I went to the polls and voted November 19. I was surprised by the turnout for early voting in a midterm election. When I arrived Friday afternoon there was a line out the door. I was in line at 2:00; finished voting at 2:13. Not too bad, but in my past midterm voting experiences there’s been no line. I usually just walk in, cast my vote, and go. Could be I just picked a busy time, but it seems voters are taking this election seriously.

There were only four races on the ballot: Governor, US Senate, US House, and State House. Three will easily be won by the Republican candidate. The US Senate race between Phil Bredesen and Marsha Blackburn is the only close contest. I voted for Phil Bredesen. He is a good man. Blackburn is a career politician and among the strongest supporters of and has been personally endorsed by President Trump. She’s been a Representative in Washington for sixteen years. Her campaign has consisted almost entirely of sound bites, buzzwords, and outright lies.
Oh man, fingers crossed for Bredsen. Thanks for voting.

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Originally Posted by Namath12
Voted in person today. Three hour ordeal all told, line all the way out the door, looked like heavy turnout on both sides but I only spotted two MAGA hats which surprised me. Some mid-sixties black guy was in the parking lot yelling about how "socialism has never worked anywhere" and to "vote red all the way." I asked if I could have his social security check and he pretended not to hear me. Once I got inside the building some guy told me that, if you had a vote-by-mail ballot, you can just drop it off at the polling place no sweat. No one from the county office informed anyone of this. With that plus the fact that we only get 9 days of early voting, I'll be looking at other options next time our supervisor of elections runs. Anyway I got to show my kid how the process works. Next time I will show her how voting by mail works.
JFC 3 hours. We need national vote by mail.

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Originally Posted by Kintamayama
Voted by mail for CA from Japan. Quite easy to register online and receive a ballot by email.
Woo! Thanks for voting!

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Originally Posted by bware
Filled out my absentee ballot
(VA doesn't do early voting)
Thanks! Lots of competitive races in VA

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Originally Posted by miajag
Voted today in Maryland.
Thanks for voting! Also WTF MD has an R governor??
10-28-2018 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by goofball
This can't possibly be correct. As other suggested I would recommend you reach out the the ACLU. All americans (with the exception of some felons) hav the right to vote.
I was looking at this some more tonight and I found out how to apply for an absentee ballot, though it's too late for this election. But it's not clear whether or not I would be granted an absentee ballot.
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Whether or not an American citizen born overseas who has never resided in the U.S. can vote in American elections is determined by state law. Please see the list of states below.

The voting rights of U.S. citizens born overseas are specifically provided by laws in approximately 37 states [PA is not on that list]. Information about these states is listed below and should be reviewed before submitting a Registration/Absentee Ballot Request form in case special exceptions apply. Even though some states are silent on the issue, no state specifically forbids it, so we encourage you to try to register, even if your state is not on the list, by using the federal Registration/Absentee Ballot Request form.
https://vhd.overseasvotefoundation.o...eas-can-i-vote

The eligibility requirements to be able to vote in Pennsylvania are:
  • Are a U.S citizen
  • Are a resident of Pennsylvania
  • Are at least 18 years old by Election Day
  • Live in the precinct where you vote for at least 30 days prior to the election
I don't meet those requirements. On the PA absentee ballot request form I need to explain why I want an absentee ballot:
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SECTION A – ABSENCE FROM THE MUNICIPALITY
I declare that I am eligible to vote absentee at the forthcoming primary or election since I expect that my duties, occupation or business will require me to be absent from the municipality of my residence on the day of the primary or election for the reason stated below; and that all of the information which I have listed on this absentee ballot application is true and correct.
So I have to put something in here and I think they can decide whether or not they want to give me an absentee ballot based on my response.
10-28-2018 , 02:25 AM
"JFC in person voting is so bad. We need to all vote by mail."

Nah, I disagree. It should be one of the small things that we share as a society - way too much of clicking on buttons/dropping stuff in the mail. I think the actual act of casting the vote around a bunch of other people can help people in a tiny way to understand that we're all in this together.

This of course assumes that you don't have to stand in line in a downpour/baking sun/be somehow blocked from voting to do it. Which I know in some places is problematic.

MM MD
10-28-2018 , 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by hobbes9324
Pretty much straight dem, except for our rep Amodei, who I'll vote for because he's actually a normal human being (especially for a GOP guy)
lol voting anyone with R next to their name, are u not paying attention
10-28-2018 , 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hobbes9324
"JFC in person voting is so bad. We need to all vote by mail."

Nah, I disagree. It should be one of the small things that we share as a society - way too much of clicking on buttons/dropping stuff in the mail. I think the actual act of casting the vote around a bunch of other people can help people in a tiny way to understand that we're all in this together.

This of course assumes that you don't have to stand in line in a downpour/baking sun/be somehow blocked from voting to do it. Which I know in some places is problematic.

MM MD
I agree it would be nice to walk over the community center and make it a bit of a ritual. But vote by mail >>> waiting for hours because republicans are rigging the vote again. The current system is way too exploitable by hostile actors e.g. republicans.
10-28-2018 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Here's my situation. I've been a US citizen from birth but was born in Canada and have never resided in the US. My parents are from New York, but they were "most recently domiciled" in PA.

I tried registering to vote by absentee ballot in 2010. I ended up with a Centre County Pennsylvania Certificate of Voter Registration with my address listed as the address of my parents' last domicile (which was 1965--I've never lived there). They provided me with the Polling Place where I could vote (a mere 6-hour drive away), but nothing about absentee ballots. By then the election was only 3 weeks away. I reached out to Dems Abroad but they had no idea what I could do, so I gave up.

I just decided to look into this again. I found that "In some States, U.S. citizens who are 18 years or older and were born abroad, but have never resided in the United States, are eligible to vote absentee," but PA is not listed as one of these states. https://www.fvap.gov/citizen-voter/reside

Does this mean as someone who was born a US citizen, has a US Passport, SSN, registered for the draft, and dutifully sends my FBAR and 1040 to the IRA every year, I am not allowed to vote, even in presidential elections, because PA won't let me? This seems extremely unfair as I am white and have photo ID. If I am still eligible to vote for president and just not in PA elections, then can someone tell me what I need to do?
I am in a similar situation. I no longer qualify as a resident of any US state. (More precisely - my driver's license expired and I was unable to renew it because I was living abroad - now I have no documents that establish residency, and in any case wouldn't want to because then I'd be subject to state income tax on my income). Federal law in principle allows one to vote in presidential elections in one's state of last residence (if one has never resided in the US, then I suppose on cannot vote at all), although my memory is that the law is clearly worded with military personnel in mind, not ordinary emigrants. For several presidential elections I voted in my state of last residence, but after the Trump election, the state sent me a letter striking me from the rolls unless I could prove residence (for the Trump election they initially refused to send me a ballot, but finally did so, only it arrived too late to be cast validly - I don't remember the details - but they stank). It doesn't matter that this is all probably illegal, as there appears to be no effective recourse short of filing a lawsuit, which I have neither the interest nor the energy nor the resources to do. In my case I suspect that the county registrar (who is almost certainly anti-Trump given what county it was) is simply completely incompetent.

The summary is that if you have never lived in the US you probably have no legal right to vote.

Many people are confused by the following: in the US a citizen does not have a right to vote, nor a right to representation. Many, many US citizens are systematically disenfranchised, typical groups being residents of Washington D.C. and expatriates of all kinds (not to mention Puerto Rico). The numbers are several million people, more than reside in about half the states. But there is no consciousness of this issue at all inside the US. Among modern democracies the US is almost exceptional in not guaranteeing representation for all of its citizens.
10-28-2018 , 09:19 AM
No early voting in NY. Thanks Cuomo!
10-28-2018 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bacalaopeace
Many people are confused by the following: in the US a citizen does not have a right to vote, nor a right to representation.
So I am subject to taxation without representation? When has that ever gone badly?

I guess I'll find out whether PA will let me vote next election and then contact ACLU if they don't. Is there anything coming up before 2020 primaries?
10-28-2018 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
So I am subject to taxation without representation?
You and millions of US citizens. (Not to mention millions of taxpaying immigrants.)
10-28-2018 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDuker
Same. I like this feature where you can at least in theory check that your mailed ballot was received and counted.

There's a prop in AZ for a constitutional amendment to prohibit new taxes on "services". The well-funded supporting group is called "Citizens for Fair Tax Policy" and their ads are all scare-mongering about big new taxes coming on everything from haircuts to plumbers to childcare.

It turns out this group is controlled by realtors and all they care about is that their real estate services never get taxed.

To add confusion, the proposition is opposed by both major candidates for Governor as well as by Americans for Properity (Koch-funded libertarian douchebags). It will probably pass anyway.
I'm going to enjoy the vote-by-mail option while I can. I'm not 100% reassured by the on-line check to see if my ballot was counted, but it's better than nothing.

I'm not sure what the polling says, but if the R candidate for for Secretary of State gets in, he's going to do everything he can to screw voters (opposes mail-in, supports English only literature).

The props always seem confusing. I wasn't sure about the services tax proposition (126) but voted NO, reasoning that if these taxes are limited then sales tax increases are more likely, which I don't like because sales tax is so regressive.

edit: Jesus. Gaynor is the R and is probably in it for the governorship.

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October 8, 2018: ABC15 released a poll it sponsored which had Gaynor leading Hobbs 50 to 36 percent. The poll's margin of error was +/- 4 percentage points and its sample size was 600 likely voters.
https://ballotpedia.org/Arizona_Secr...election,_2018

Last edited by uDevil; 10-28-2018 at 08:44 PM. Reason: poll
10-28-2018 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by m_reed05
Voted today. Got an absentee mail ballot. Filled it out and then my daughter got ahold of the envelope it's supposed to go in and ripped it. Not taking any chances I dropped it off at the early voting location today and made sure it was OK. There were 0 people at the early voting location at 11:00 on a Saturday. I live in a small town in Ohio... trumpkin hell.

The ballot said to make sure you fold along original creases, and that the ballot had to go in the specific signed envelope they provide. But if you fold along the original creases, it didn't fit in the envelope they provided.

Ohio has an issue on the ballot to reduce prison sentences especially for drug possession. Possession would be a misdemeanor and jail time prohibited until third offense. Steer things more toward rehabilitation, work programs, etc. I can't imagine it has a chance in hell of passing in Ohio.

I voted for it and straight Democrat. They don't label judges by party on the ballot so I had to look those up.
thats issue 1. or, as conservative limbaug wannabe trivosono says, Soros funded drug dealer bill.

ya it wont pass. its a good bill but oh well.
10-28-2018 , 09:39 PM
****ing NY, so liberal in so many ways, and yet there is absolutely no way to early vote whatsoever, and you can’t absentee ballot unless you have a reason.
10-28-2018 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
thats issue 1. or, as conservative limbaug wannabe trivosono says, Soros funded drug dealer bill.

ya it wont pass. its a good bill but oh well.
It's polling +11! (45/34 with 20 undecided)

The undecideds may not break well (in ballot measures they bend to break like 2/3 no), but it's certainly got a shot!

Also, mapping 2/3 of the undecideds onto No and 1/3 on to Yes gives you a final result of the bill passing 52-47

I've read up on a bunch of the ballot measures this year, I think they are an under utilized liberal tactic.

As it turns out most republican ideas (tax breaks for billionaires funded by taking away healthcare from poor kids) are really unpopular. But they've had success via a combo of racism, lying, and vote suppression.

Consistently putting progressive ideas on the ballot seems like a pretty good path to change narratives and also enact those ideas.

I just looked through ballotpedia for initiatives on clear partisan issues:

- This bill - prison reform polls +11 in OH
- In Oregon there are 3 right wing bills (soda tax ban polling -6, ending sanctuary status -14, no state funds for abortion -21)
- In WA the carbon tax is polling +14 and the gun control law is +20
- AR: minimum wage increase is +30
- AZ: energy / environmental bill is -13, service tax ban is +15 (LOL Arizona)
- CO: progressive state income tax is +16
- MI: legal weed is +16, independent redistricting is +30, voting rights is +46
- MO: right to work is -9
- MT: increase tobacco tax & make medicaid expansion permanent
- OK: medical marijuana is +28 (poll is months old)
- UT: medical marijuana, avg is +41, but most recent polls are +31, +31, +5, and medicaid expansion is +29, independent redistricting is +34


Also MO has minimum wage increase, NE and ID have medicaid expansion, NV has automatic registration & an environmental bill, all with no polls that I can find.
10-29-2018 , 12:14 AM
voting on Tuesday
10-29-2018 , 10:06 AM
I'll likely be voting on election day rather than beforehand.

Does anyone have suggestions for how to read up/vote on local ballot measures? I just looked at our sample ballot for Baltimore City and there are a bunch of measures to authorize the city to borrow money to fund various things (affordable housing, public parks, public campaign financing, etc etc). They're all things that I'm in favor of providing funding to, but the city as a whole has pretty incompetent leadership and I don't know that I necessarily want THIS leadership to be the one using those borrowed funds. As I type that out, though, I realize that it makes me sound like a crusty old person. I think right now my plan is to vote yes on all of them absent some specific reason not to.
10-29-2018 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by catfacemeowmers
I'll likely be voting on election day rather than beforehand.

Does anyone have suggestions for how to read up/vote on local ballot measures? I just looked at our sample ballot for Baltimore City and there are a bunch of measures to authorize the city to borrow money to fund various things (affordable housing, public parks, public campaign financing, etc etc). They're all things that I'm in favor of providing funding to, but the city as a whole has pretty incompetent leadership and I don't know that I necessarily want THIS leadership to be the one using those borrowed funds. As I type that out, though, I realize that it makes me sound like a crusty old person. I think right now my plan is to vote yes on all of them absent some specific reason not to.
https://ballotpedia.org/Sample_Ballot_Lookup

FYI you don't actually have to enter an email address - you can leave that field blank
10-29-2018 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by catfacemeowmers
Does anyone have suggestions for how to read up/vote on local ballot measures? I just looked at our sample ballot for Baltimore City and there are a bunch of measures
check votesaveamerica.com for the Democrat view

      
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