My solution would be require identification for use of the card. To make sure the person using the card is the 1 receiving benefits. Also take away non essential items off what you can buy with the card no pop candy bars coffee etc... for starters. At least then if fraud is occurring. A their not going to get much cash back from transaction. B The person committing the fraud has to have other person shopping with them.

ding ding ding

why not? whores need to eat, too

no, your ID can be stolen, depriving you of food

this is why you have to affix the ID to the person

you can't tattoo a UPC because it violates certain religions

so you have to implant a chip under the skin


hmm, maybe we could just use a fingerprint database

Id's are like 7 to 10 dollars you wouldn't be willing to pay that to potentially get 100 to 500 dollars worth of food.

I can't speak for anyone else, but personally I see it as no different than being upset about funding your kid's lunch account no questions asked, only to find out he's just buying cookies and Gatorade every day.

If you want to spend your own money on nonsense, that's fine. But if I give you money for lunch, I'd like to see better choices being made.

I had that conversation with my own kid last year after learning that the school tracks what they purchase and gives parents online access to the log.

As an aside, this was 16 or 17 years ago, but I think the case for peanut butter was that it was a cost-effective source of protein. Maybe thinking has changed on that.

Just give poor people some tomato seeds and a bag of topsoil. Try and get high on that, losers.

My solution to this problem is to continue to not give a rat's ass about what you would like to see. Easy and efficient.

You're gonna need to ****in' cite this.

I think the causal arrow is backward in this thread. There's literally a million aggravations at a checkout line, a ton of which don't seem to lead people to political viewpoints. Being a Republican means you notice or at least you think you notice a lot more at grocery check out line. It means being ever vigilant of other peoples' baskets and always trying to snoop out what credit card their using and making a lot of moral judgements about it.

If you deduct mortgage interest, can I put some requirements on the house you bought?

You forgot the next logical step after this: you bizarrely get yourself worked up about the payment methods of the guy in front of you, THEN blame liberals and wonder what they plan to do about your rage.

It's sort of the perfect encapsulation of the modern American right-wing movement though: just tons of angry morons trading folklore and various fictions about food stamps and tbone steaks and energy drink EBT fraud wondering when liberals will make them feel better about all of this. From Kaepernick to online dating to cops shooting random unarmed people they find, it's literally the ultimate story of the modern American right wing idiot: I'm angry, confused, clueless, and I'm blaming liberals for all of it and demanding they tend to my sensitivities.

It really is fascinating seeing people squabble over how $70 billion is spent per year because 1% of it is lost to fraud while at the same time they'd gladly dump $100 billion in the military's lap to be spent however they want. Real cool priorities.

Even if that winds up costing you more?

its extremely hard to prove. How many people you know that are doing an explicitly illegal activity are going to fess up to doing said illegal activity. We have explicit protections in place for other illegal activities. why should people receiving government benefits be exempt?

ya, this occurs on a negligible scale. so, so what?

Extremely hard to prove yet you claim millions are doing it? So you just made that up to make you feel better about your stance?

yesterday I had to wait in line behind this overweight white woman wearing rolled up jeans and sandals (I assumed she was in the process of making america great again) arguing with the store clerk about the value of her scratch-off lottery ticket

and I was thinking "when are conservatives going to do something about tricking [negative value rollers] into paying extra for education?"

And yet you believe it so fervently?

How many people would openly admit on a phone they smoke marijuana in states where it is illegal? How many people would openly admit to playing online poker when its explicitly illegal. just because its not easy to prove doesn't mean its not happening.

epistemology 101

A fair amount!


No idea.

I know people personally in Ohio that do this. through my own experience and interactions with people. If they were asked about it by a job and family services worker they would deny it. My bad I'm just assuming it goes on everywhere else as well.

So the amount of fraud is only limited by your imagination?

I know around 200 people on a semi personal level Around 40 of those people are either buying food stamps from other people or selling food stamps to other people. It really annoys me to be honest.