Explain the breadth and scope of welfare fraud in America to me please. This seperates us taxpayers from everyone else.

Should be cite or ban imo.

Edit: Also super excited to see Mr. Dino Denier himself itt

Wait who denies dinos?? Man this just got interesting

If you noticed ebt cards everywhere you were massively triggered.

I used to manage a grocery store when paper vouchers still existed for food stamps. It was pretty sad what some people did. One lady would send in each her kids with one dollar to buy one piece of candy. Then she would come back in and use the change for cigarettes.

The other 99% of people were just struggling to get by and take care of their families like everyone else.

But you are getting all triggered by debit cards in the grocery store lol

We've already seen ITT how even with EBT purchasing rules in place there are still scofflaws at gas stations who will sell illicit energy drinks. Like, sometimes **** is complicated, but sometimes Econ 101 lessons really do apply to the real world, and it's amazing to watch Republicans argue against them.

Huh? Most suburbs don't even have a Whole Foods.

Does universal basic income help remove the notion of welfare queens?

Everyone would have a crown

First-rate!

Nor do they have very many EBT card users.

When people criticize "welfare queens", it's really a form of self-deprecation because they're projecting what they would do with benefits onto others.

It's a sad existence.

Uh, no, not if I spend more than $500 on food. And I know you were either homeschooled or raised by religious zealots who told you to disagree with the vile Jew lies your teachers were telling you, but market principles are ALWAYS at work. But giving someone money that expires when you always spend more than that will not produce any change in habits, though.

There's maybe some deeper confusion here, so I'll answer OMG!Glutten's question here for you:

People need to eat. As a species get hungry if we go like 12 hours without food.

P.S. $500 is an extremely high dollar amount for food stamps, which you should know, because you and your worthless wife were moochers! You needed MY TAX DOLLARS to feed your kid!

1/4th of America has EBT. The suburbs are filled with people on EBT...

Facts are cool.

There are approximately 45 million Americans receiving help via SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, what they renamed food stamps). The average monthly benefit is $125. The government estimates that SNAP fraud dropped from four cents on the dollar in the early 90's to one cent on the dollar.

So, Inso0, you're a conservative, right? So you believe that the government that governs least governs best, yes? I don't disagree with that notion on many issues, for what it's worth.

You believe in deregulation and totally free markets, you believe in people making their own choices without undue government oversight? You believe in small government that employs as few people as possible?

These are pretty standard conservative ideals... So, with that in mind...

First of all, let me point out that WIC is not SNAP. WIC is for women (pregnant, postpartum or breastfeeding), infants and children. As a result, the nutritional requirements make more sense. I'm not directing this clarification at you, I'm just assuming that a lot of the people reading this may not know the difference between WIC and EBT/SNAP.

Anyway, you're suggesting this for what we colloquially know as food stamps. So, you're suggesting that the government tells people what to eat so that they don't abuse the system and buy unhealthy empty calories with taxpayer money... So you're advocating for government policy that dictates health on the citizen. So you're cool with Bloomberg's soda law in NYC? Just checking...

You're also suggesting that the government dictate what is healthy. So you're suggesting that the government bureaucrats know better than each American citizen what is healthy and right for them and their family, even their infants? Or should I say the government knows better than the poor citizens?

Finally, you're suggesting that the government employ people to decide how much of each type of food to give to people, which foods to include/exclude, and to regulate that the program is carried out properly, obeyed, etc... All of which costs the taxpayer more money.

See, this is the problem that a lot of liberals have with conservatives... they tend to take weird stances relative to their ideology on certain issues and contradict their "deeply held," political beliefs.

Also, peanut butter isn't very healthy, not that that has much to do with this.

Why? Is it cheaper for the taxpayer? No. So why do you care?

I'm all for giving people the information and letting them make choices while restricting their options minimally (ie no alcohol, cigarettes, etc on EBT/WIC). In my view society, via the government, is fulfilling an obligation to its poorest members to save them from starving. We're doing so in a way that has as much dignity for the poor as possible, and as little expense as possible to the taxpayer. Your suggestions cost us more money and rob people of their dignity, and to what end?

So conservatives can lord a little more power over poor people? Cause that's really the only motivation here... which we know, because your arguments fly in the face of normal conservative ideas.

Noticed tonight along with what i paid they had the snap price showing on the register. Has anyone else seen this? Cant imagine that goes over well with the let them pull up their bootstraps folk.

It won't save you.

Based on his posting, my guess is that this guy didn't know he was taking a multiple-choice quiz rather than him being the type of person that just chooses "A" when he doesn't know the correct answer.

So Inso isn't aware that pretzels and bread both come from the same magical plant, and that milk and cheese both come from the same magical animal? That's interesting.

You might not think you're blowing minds, but you are.

Then everyone is going to try to get on welfare to be cool like the Klan.

From a conservative point of view, I would much rather see them with food stamps than just simply cash handouts from the government as then you will know it won't be spent on crack and whores, etc.

I hate seeing poors check out at the grocery line with crack and whores in their shopping cart, pretty good that EBT cards don't allow those kinds of transactions.

I've heard that many Wawa stores will let you purchase crack with EBT, they just bill it as condensed milk.

A question for those opposing government assistance coming in the form of cash/EBT cards:

What percentage of fraud/abuse do you find acceptable? Is it 0?