You don't. You get rid of food stamps and give people money.

So people are scamming free food and your solution is provide them with free food and a free place to live?

How do you know they will use the money for food for their kids instead of poker/other stuff?

And it that doesn't teach 'em, we start giving them free HBO!

the best solution is to give everyone a set amount of michelle obama-approved food rations (or mass produced nutri-bars if necessary to meet demand). you just set up a spot in town and people can show up and wait in line for their coupons then wait in another line for their soylent shake or whatever has the most nutrients as approved by top elite east-coast liberal scientists.

I don't. I do know the main problem is poverty and that that is best addressed by people having more more money. I also know about the problem of stigma

and I strongly suspect that the side problem of those who would drink rather than feed their kids are going to find a way to do so either way. These families needs other sorts of intervention.

http://www.economist.com/node/18958475

There is plenty of actual economic research on food stamps out there and a bunch of articles on it like the link. The data shows food stamps are good and aren't wildly abused like people think they are.

So quit fretting about the poors guzzling on redbull whilst eating lobster at the poker table.

Liberal naiveté ITT.

To answer OP: no.


I do wonder if there's some sort of database that tracks actual purchases with EBT cards. I went to a local grocery store for lunch from the deli pretty much 5 days a week almost all the way through 2016, and the EBT cards were everywhere. I admit I noticed some pretty amusing conveyor belts full of stereotype-promoting groceries being paid for with EBT, but I wouldn't say I was triggered, and it was mostly just standard fat american groceries like everyone else buys.

What will get you though is when the EBT card comes out to pay for a ton of empty calories, and then they use wads of cash for half a dozen bottles of alcohol. That's unfortunate. I used the liquor section to check out pretty often because I always just had a deli box and the line was usually short. But maybe those people were all just having a party, who knows.

Still, it's ridiculous to claim that EBT cards create republican voters.

I wouldn't mind seeing a system come back like when I was on WIC, where they'd literally give you coupons for milk, eggs, peanut butter, formula, etc. You absolutely had to buy those items. We wound up with more peanut butter than we needed, for sure, but if they had given us straight cash equivalent I'm sure I would've spent half of it on mozzarella sticks and soft pretzels.

There's data that says you are wrong Oh-great-believer-of-dino-nostril-extinction-theorem.

A+ system. Some gov't bureaucrat gets paid to look over lists of grocery items and decide for you what products you need, some bureaucrat gets paid to run around town checking to see if the grocery stores are complying with the rules, you wind up with more peanut butter than you actually needed, and the rest of us pay extra in taxes.

No system is perfect, but I'd argue excess peanut butter is probably better than stuffing EBT-funded baskets with cost-inefficient and non-nutritious options, no?

LOL Inso0 is a welfare queen.

This isn't true at all, btw. Where'd you learn it?

When was the last time actual food stamps existed? I'm pretty sure it's been on debit cards for a while.

Anyway this thread is a nice counterpoint to Riverman's mistaken belief that the insane lack of self-awareness makes being a deplorable easy because you'd have less anxiety.

You replace that anxiety* with apparently some weaponized form of OCD that makes you notice both what the people in front of you are buying(this is weird) and also apparently peering at their payment method(this is even weirder! People think you're trying to steal their PINs! Stop doing it).


*And self-awareness anxiety has a lot of positives. Worrying about your appearances makes you dress nicer, worrying about being rude causes you to make amends, and so forth. You think Inso has any of that ****? Self-awareness is what causes dignity.

That is how like, totalitarian countries do it, or how resource-scarce countries do rationing in times of war. It causes a thriving black market and a ton of waste.

It's so ****ing weird how these people's faith in the wisdom of the free market and hatred of the nanny state goes away instantly, almost as if none of them have any ****ing principles at all.

FlyWf confirmed literally never purchased his own groceries before. You've gotta be out of school by now because you registered in 2004, so I find that pretty incredible.

Time to spread those wings, Fly. Give momma Wf a break.

If I gave you $500 to spend at a grocery store this month and told you that you don't get to keep anything left over, would that change your buying habits?

The only possible answer is, "yes."

Not exactly free market principles at work there.

This thread is ridiculous. GOP voters go waaaaay the **** out of their way to NOT shop at stores where people use EBT cards. That story Inso told about all the poors he saw at the deli where he bought lunch? It's bull****. He saw like one dude, one time, maybe. All the rest is fever dreams of the resentful white anger bear class.

That's right! There isn't a single GOP voter in a Wal-Mart, ever!

I live in Milwaukee, friend. You can't throw a dead pitbull without hitting someone with an EBT card. Going out of my way to shop at a store without "poors" would involve leaving the county entirely, or maybe going to a Whole Foods, but I'm not interested in spending $14 on some chicken.

Here's a map for you.


Green = "regular" poors
Red = college-aged poors
Blue = Rich white people

The rich people shop at the Whole Foods 10 blocks east of that Pick N Save that I buy lunch at.

Honestly thought this was going to be a thread about tabloids like the National Enquirer

Ask Fly about those, because apparently that's what he's doing in the checkout line instead of paying attention to his surroundings.

OK so now I have to go back and actually read posts...

Yea dude, inspecting the groceries and payment methods of strangers is pretty weird. You're on your own there.

What’s the other side?