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The Great Partial Government Shutdown of 2019

View Poll Results: How long will this government shutdown last?

2 weeks

2 1.85%

3 weeks

7 6.48%

4 weeks

22 20.37%

6 weeks

24 22.22%

8 weeks

10 9.26%

10 weeks

7 6.48%

3 months

8 7.41%

6 months

3 2.78%

1 year

1 0.93%

the remainder of trump's term

24 22.22%

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01-08-2019 , 03:33 AM

#176

El Lobo Gordo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eyebooger

Also I'm assuming the cost for those type of contractors will skyrocket once this is over. Who wants their paycheck to be dependent on the whims of this government right now?

The contracted workers probably get paid prevailing wage which is likely much higher than the could get anywhere else.

01-08-2019 , 08:44 AM

#177

eyebooger

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 58,698

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Lobo Gordo

All sides share blame in the shut down. I can make arguments where all the premises are true, where the conclusion logically follows from those premises, and where the democrats are blamed. Or the republicans. Or President Trump. I can do this because all three parties share responsibility.

No.

https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1072544085548908546

01-08-2019 , 08:57 AM

#178

zikzak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El Lobo Gordo

Your utterance is stupid. We are talking about smashing windows. An act designed to intimidate and strike fear. Just because no one happens to be physically harmed doesn't mean it isn't violence. What if someone is harmed, by say some flying glass, does the act become violence just because of some random fate twist? What if someone is mentally harmed? Is it violence? If a pro-life group bulldozes and abortion mill when nobody is in it, is that a non violent protest?

Your claim that property damage by smashing windows is not only stupid it is despicable. Its despicable because you are defending a hater advocating violence. It is despicable because its likely there are people here who are so stupid and filled with hate(hate that is cultivated here mind you), that they may actually believe they can go around smashing windows as a non violent form of protest.

Your post is so stupid it's inciting me to violence. It will be your fault if I go hurt people.

01-08-2019 , 09:15 AM

#179

GTO2.0

Pooh-Bah

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

Your post is so stupid it's inciting me to violence. It will be your fault if I go hurt people.

Jesus Christ, Gordo is going to share responsibility for physical violence!

01-08-2019 , 11:59 AM

#180

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El Lobo Gordo

Your utterance is stupid. We are talking about smashing windows. An act designed to intimidate and strike fear. Just because no one happens to be physically harmed doesn't mean it isn't violence.

Narrator: Yes it does.

You still haven't answered why a wall is the only effective boarder security there is. Or what information that theory is based on.

01-08-2019 , 12:39 PM

#181

BoredSocial

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Or how a wall could possibly help vs people who have a history of building tunnels large enough to drive a semi truck through.

01-08-2019 , 03:21 PM

#182

El Lobo Gordo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kerowo

You still haven't answered why a wall is the only effective boarder security there is. Or what information that theory is based on.

I did not explain this claim because I did not make it. Obviously there is more than one way to skin a cat when it comes to border security.

01-08-2019 , 03:29 PM

#183

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El Lobo Gordo

I did not explain this claim because I did not make it. Obviously there is more than one way to skin a cat when it comes to border security.

And yet you blame the people who won't give money for a wall for the shut down of the government instead of the person making the unproven claim.

morphius.jpg.

01-08-2019 , 03:31 PM

#184

El Lobo Gordo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BoredSocial

Or how a wall could possibly help vs people who have a history of building tunnels large enough to drive a semi truck through.

Why have locks at your home and businesses if thieves have a history of just breaking through them?

01-08-2019 , 03:39 PM

#185

Huehuecoyotl

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El Lobo Gordo

Why have locks at your home and businesses if thieves have a history of just breaking through them?

Reminds me of listening to a podcast about lockpicking and how basic most residential locks are in that they can be lock picked in under 30 seconds as well as just breaking a window and the pithy conclusion they drew was that locking your door is a way to show society that you did your part so you won't get blamed if someone does steal your things.

01-08-2019 , 03:40 PM

#186

El Lobo Gordo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kerowo

And yet you blame the people who won't give money for a wall for the shut down of the government instead of the person making the unproven claim.

morphius.jpg.

Trump is asking for 5.7 billion out of a ~4 trillion dollar budget. The democrats have stopped the flow of water from the cities water tower hurting all the townspeople in the process, just because Trump wants to use a drop of water to fulfill a campaign promise. You pick your fights, and this isn't something worth fighting over.

This isn't about money, or morality(the democrats have voted for physical barriers and border security before), its about politics. Its about making Trump look bad. Its *******ism.

01-08-2019 , 03:40 PM

#187

ANONN123

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El Lobo Gordo

Why have doors and windows at your home and businesses if thieves have a history of just breaking through them?

Better to just have walls amirite

01-08-2019 , 03:42 PM

#188

El Lobo Gordo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Locks also show that you care about your privacy and your stuff. If there is a vacant building and window gets broken that isn't fixed timely, soon the rest of the windows will all get broken by vandals. By not fixing the first one timely, you signal to everyone else that you just don't care. The dems are signally they don't care about border security anymore.

01-08-2019 , 03:46 PM

#189

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El Lobo Gordo

Why not about all of those things?

01-08-2019 , 04:05 PM

#190

otatop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El Lobo Gordo

"Party of fiscal responsibility" lol.

Quote:

This isn't about money, or morality(the democrats have voted for physical barriers and border security before), its about politics.

When they voted for that, were they voting to just give someone who doesn't understand basic aspects of how government works billions of dollars with no plan for how the money was spent, or was there an actual plan that was approved?

01-08-2019 , 04:11 PM

#191

ScreaminAsian

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looking forward to the fat wolf defending president ocasio-cortez when she shuts down the government until the military builds free housing for every american. he'll say, "while i philosophically disagree with the government not just letting poor people die in the street, this is a legitimate negotiating tactic and the republicans must submit"

01-08-2019 , 04:11 PM

#192

Slighted

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El Lobo Gordo

how do you reconcile that the senate passed the bill 100-0 to fund it, and then ann coulter and hannity told president trump to say no with you now trying to lie and say its the dems..

do republicans not have the intellectual capacity to see that this is clearly trump causing the shut down? or are you just lying? i mean i generally assume people aren't really dumb. but it becomes really hard with conservatives.

01-08-2019 , 04:17 PM

#193

AllTheCheese

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Keep ****ing that chicken, Fat Wolf. The same tired lies over and over. We've already proven beyond reasonable doubt that Donald Trump and the Republicans caused the shutdown and are responsible for it. The Dems just "don't care about border security," despite unanimously passing a bill that funded DHS at current levels in December and offering 1.6 billion dollars specifically earmarked for border fencing. Your horrifically idiotic, bad faith argument boils down to Dems must cave because my Daddy Donald Trump really wants them to.

01-08-2019 , 04:18 PM

#194

Loden Pants

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vecernicek

Did I miss the part where the Fat Wolf said he didn't even vote for Trump, or am I not too late?

El Lobulo Gordo is more like it

01-08-2019 , 04:38 PM

#195

Namath12

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Yall are just gonna keep talking to it huh

01-08-2019 , 04:42 PM

#196

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El Lobo Gordo

Bull****. It's a total boondoggle. Smart people don't give money to Trump for a "building project" without having plans in place.

Also, how much money did the Republicans give to Obama so he could fulfill a campaign promise? LMAO.

01-08-2019 , 05:19 PM

#197

Louis Cyphre

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kerowo

You still haven't answered why a wall is the only effective boarder security there is.

Because of radical Islam

Spoiler:

01-08-2019 , 08:08 PM

#198

goofyballer

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...8b9_story.html

Quote:

SNAP beneficiaries will not see cuts to their benefits through the end of February even if the shutdown continues, said Brandon Lipps, acting deputy undersecretary for Food, Nutrition and Consumer Services.

But Trump administration officials could not guarantee that food stamp benefits would be paid if the shutdown extends beyond February, instead blaming Congress for not giving Trump money for his proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

Yeah keep this going until March and then tell people who can't buy food it's because of the border wall, you dip****s. See how that works out for you.