Except there was no filibuster. McConnell didn’t even bring up the motion to end debate for a vote. Because it’s not clear that he even had republicans to get to 50 votes let alone the 60 he needs for that. Keep stretching the truth though.

To anyone who cares:

If you read what I actually said and not the underhanded changes made by Goofyballer, you will see that what I actually said was an opinion and not an argument. Several of my sentences began with the words "I think" which indicates what follows is just an opinion.

To Goofyballer:

Since you can't distinguish between opinion and argument I gotta pingeonhole you as a one of the 40 or below percentilers with emphasis on "below". If you study hard maybe you can move up in my estimation.

This is a good point.

wow he's openly admitting it now

https://twitter.com/RepPressley/stat...94776398974978

Good, maybe the democrats are softening and will finally come to the table in good faith and work to end this.

lol

did keeeed get banned again or did he just make a new account to give the forum an easily crushed dummy to dunk on

I know lots of people here have Trumper family. Wonder if any are as crazily unhinged about this as my dad. He's going nuts. He was almost on the verge of yelling to my sister that democrats are evil pieces of **** and they all have walls around their homes and if they really thought walls were bad they'd tear them down and let all the illegals live with them.

Then he, unironically mind you, said they're like hoards of mongols streaming across the border to commit crime.

Nobody was even talking about politics because we know better around him, it just came out of nowhere like he's been fuming for weeks.

Worst I've ever seen him with the trump craziness. He eventually went for a drive and calmed down but good lord.

lol:

There are 4 sentences expressed in this post and 3 of them begin with "I [do/don't] think". There is 1 sentence that you specifically elected not to begin with those words, which is the sentence that I took up in my post. There's a reason for that, because it's the same argument you've been pushing throughout this thread.

Now that it's been exposed as a dumb argument, you're backtracking from it. Sad! I guess that's what makes you a 10 percentiler.

My cousin was pretty much like this over Christmas. We live in Winnipeg mind you.

I don't even talk to Trumpers anymore. They are dead to me as far as I'm concerned. **** them and **** their wall.

This. If you like him I don't like you, period.

mbn

I mean yeah but I keep the peace for the sake of my mother who's a progressive.

Was mostly just curious if others have noticed the same thing because I view my dad as a near perfect indicator of the 60+ fox news crowd. He dings legit every single stereotype about old dumb racist fox news Trumpers. I'm guessing the majority of them are unhinged right now over this shutdown which to them is obv the dems fault.

Did he point out that these democrats were for border security before they were against border security?

40th percentile is only like one sigma right? We as a forum have fallen far short of awice's 5-sigma benchmark.

The Democrats are not against "border security" (though they should be). They are against Trump's stupid ****ing wall.

BTW, you never answered why a clean CR with no wall that passed the senate unanimously last month is not good enough to put back up for a vote now.

They really seem to fear they're going to be conquered. The "dems are evil" bit allows whatever the hell they want to any dem and they'll cheer it on, concentration camps, flat out executions, it doesn't matter, he'll get there in supporting it and hell probably reporting you to throw you in there. There is no bottom and If there's a way of getting someone out of that at this point I have no idea how--he's clearly been fed it over and over and over and over.

Trump's a caver when things start going wrong but Miller isn't. The biggest problem is Republicans pretty much want a shutdown

Ofc a shutdown would at least in theory add illegal immigration problems b/c well the TSA isn't getting paid and idk if the Coast Guard is either but it's not about facts, a bunch of them at this point probably couldn't tell you why they want a wall but they're certain it'd make them happy.

Coast Guard definitely not getting paid.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/coas...ry?id=60034749

Its not "good enough" now because McConnell and other republican senators would lose support if they broke ranks with Trump.

But don't think that isn't true for many democrats. I'm sure many of them would be happy to break ranks and vote for a wall if they could do so without consequences.

So am I. I'm flying out of JFK this Tuesday.

Mentioned the sick-outs to my mother and she bitched about how the Democrats are stopping government workers from getting paid by not giving Trump his wall.

wait... they are working now but wont be paid back when the gov reopens?

republicans don't want a shutdown, they want a dictator who puts minorities in their place. they hate democracy. they are fascists.