for the love of god, dont give this fat orange piece of **** any ideas

House and Trump will snap pass whatever gets out of the senate, won't even take a week.

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/877982307168079872

They do, they just don't leak as often. Mostly because people aren't very excited to hear what Democrats have to say. There's no "what BS are they going to try and pull" meta text to it.

jfc pelosi is terrible
massive mistake keeping her as minority leader

#PROTECTOURCARE

#STANDWITHNANCY



that's just....i have no words..****ing hell

He's echoing Trump, though? Has to trigger his tweetin' reflex.

Don't see how this is suddenly going to start working with republicans making under 250k.

Better at messaging means being okay with lying their asses off.

Her as minority leader and potentially the majority leader after '18 could set up the most interesting Sophie's Choice in modern American politics for Paul Ryan if it becomes clear in the next 16-18 months that there are high odds of impeachment of both Trump and Pence. Imagine a scenario in which Dems win the House, there's smoking gun evidence on both, and Pelosi is third in line. I actually think Dems would have to make a deal to remove her as Speaker just to get Republicans to follow through and convict, even with smoking gun evidence.

a possible way out of the debacle that is the united states healthcare system would be for some imaginative person to invent a new way to use technology to make the insurance companies redundant.

not sure what this idea would be, but technology is the one thing to which they are not immune, despite their having merged with our government to devise legislation solely to increase their profits.

this disgrace of a (tax cut) bill represents greed in its worst form, and the only silver lining is that it's so atrocious that democratic states like california will ignore the insurance lobby and continue forward with their plans to enact a single payer system.

That technology would be called the US Government. All you need insurance companies for is their customer service department.

My guess is they coalesce around a plan and pass something.

Might take a few months but I doubt they just let ACA stay in place.

And the stabilization fund that their bill has may help the insurance markets in the short-term so they can claim victory. Pretty ****ed up.

So with ACA, Insurance companies had to spend at least 85% of premiums on healthcare and the remaining 15% could go to administration, profits, etc

This new bill removes that so they can skim more money for profit

Yeah the nerve of them to promote things like 'facts', 'science' and 'good policy'.

well like i said the insurance companies have merged with the government (in a bad way) and have thus become way too powerful to ever deviate from their current business model. some form of major technological redundancy will have to be implemented in order to convert them into customer service departments.

I personally know Trumpkins who were completely unaware Trumpcare hurt more than just poor and blacks and browns. As soon as they found out they would lose a few bucks, they got really defensive and mad. Saying things like "No way... Trump won't let that happen."

I predict it will pass with ~50 votes. They will tweak the contents of the bill and twist some arms and it will be a repeat of what happened in the house.

I don't know. Those Democrat obstructionists...

It might be better that way. Then Dems can once again campaign on health care like Obama and co did back in 2008.

Long term this is not a battle the right wing can win. Free health care is a thing people will want.

****ing amazing. the hero-celeb worship of these people is unreal

"Repeal and replace Trumpcare" seems like a promising war cry.

This is important because with essenential benefits likely gone they need this so they can keep existing rates with a small increase in revenue. The insurance companies will slash costs bigly, while increasing revenue. After wealthy people dreaming about big tax cuts, health insurers are about as happy.

Those two will be the only winners.

Yeah they will create high risk pools to avoid exclusions which will be all but worthless given how expensive they will be and what basic policies will cover in the future.

I think it's a struggle to explain all this to people who bought into the republican healthcare to begin with. It's a very complex situation with a lot of factors. The republicans will just paste over any perceived holes with toothpaste.

It will actually take actual implementation for it to really impact people. However obvious it seems to many of us this is awful most won't learn before it is too late. It was pretty obvious trump was a ridiculous, non-tenable presidential candidate but people just do not pay attention, learn and comprehend.

Even when it all falls apart in implementation it's only 50/50 that the republicans get the blame. It is still possible for them to win the pr battle and blame the democrats for the AHCA if the democrats don't improve drastically.

Not necessarily. I don't know exact specifics (because this just came out today) but rumor has it that the new Senate version extends the time before Medicaid cuts kick in...however...the price of that provision was GOP adding language that makes the Medicaid cuts almost impossible to reverse long term.

IMO, the rub is D voters are far more likely to be skeptical about the "replace" promise than R voters.