Wait so the congressional race in that district in the 2012 election was R+16, and ikes is accusing someone else of intellectual dishonesty because Obama won by 2?

looooooooooooooooooooool

Very few doctors take medicare. So I don't see why they'd take obama's healthcare insurance either. The payouts are beyond low for doctors and it's underfunded.

Literally no one takes Obama's healthcare insurance. Because there is no such thing.

lol

Really not sure what your trying to say. No one is talking about replacement or refunds in med mal. (River and Fly thought comparing the med mal laws to passing lemon laws,with a $50 cap is a brilliant analogy) No one is talking about about immunity. You do also realize punitives are not about making anyone whole.

My best guess is that in any of the states with tort reform a person is still finacially better off losing a leg by a botched surgery then a work related or car accident. Your maybe getting a couple $100,000 in a work comp case, your lucky in a car accident if the driver has a $300,000 policy and not a $100,000 or $25,000. Your not coming anywhere close to a million or 2 that you are able to in Med Mal.

Still capped too low and I have zero confidence the spikes in penalties wont be delayed as they are, of course, politically unpopular.

Agree that the penalties were set too low though, said that from the start.

Getting rid of juries/courts and just having people get paid money from a fund sure does sound a lot like folks getting immunity from negligence.

Yes, like yesterday.

The cap being a percentage, up to the cost of the average bronze plan, doesn't seem too bad. Thinking that since most people that would be paying the lower amounts would be getting subsidies anyways so people that are out of subsidy range will be fined a decent amount. I didn't look at the actual math to back this thought up tho.

Except now, with the incentive to report mistakes, people actually report mistakes so that it's easy to find actual negligence. It's really hard to understate how important it is to get errors, negligent or not, out in the open to improve processes.

Paying out of a fund is already done in the medical field for vaccination injury btw. There's a better system than the one we're using out there.

Anything we can do to reduce the number of tort or malpractice lawyers is a good thing for society as a whole.

If I get a surgical instrument left inside my abdominal cavity man I wanna sue like crazy

But if you just kinda make mistakes all the time and suck as a doctor there obviously needs to be accountability for that too. Since I don't know how that works and don't want to wade through the last 200 posts of flaming, how does that work ikes? Each time you **** up and prescribe the wrong drug or make a ****ty diagnosis or whatever, do you get punished somehow? Or is it just, go before the board, tell them you ****ed up, and walk away with nothing but a slap on the wrist? I don't know what the accountability system is for doctors and obviously ikes can help me out with this one

I want to make absolutely clear here that I do not know a lot about med mal. So this is mostly just second-hand stuff mixed with law school class.

But what on Earth are you basing your "best guess" on? That is not how the law works. Losing a leg is losing a leg, it will have the same damages.

Worker's comp is different, obviously, but there's no need to prove negligence there.

People have talked about doing a similar system for medical practice, a compensation system that ignores doctor negligence, punitive damages, etc. and just compensates people for bad outcomes based on their damages. There's a case to be made for that, but funding would be a problem.

Shockingly, WSJ editorial writers are getting high on their own supply and don't understand reality:

There are, factually, not millions of Americans who lost existing coverage and are now paying more. First, Obama is letting everyone keep existing coverage. Second, net of subsidies, not many people pay more on the exchange for better coverage.

Again, Republicans literally have to make **** up to make any sense on this issue.

Seems candidates of both parties will run on an "end not mend" Obamacare platform in the midterms without mentioning what needs to be mended.

Did you mean to write mend not end there?

Aaron Paul is more qualified than Ron or Rand.

Seems like Paul and/or his son attempted to pursue medicaid fraud to me.

The whole thing is dumb because as mentioned a normal human being would have had their college attending son on their health plan or utilized the plan available at the University. That the costs he claims for his son to be added do not exist, it is pretty easy to see the entire thing was fabricated. I suspect it was based in part on the unverified and unsubstantiated anecdotes of one or more of his constituents.

Why he would choose to lie so egregiously and so many times about things that are fairly easy to check is just mind boggling. The guy has to be under the control of some mental disease or defect, given that insane narrative.

I would like to know what actual insurance coverage his son ended up with and perhaps a copy of his premium billing statement. The whole thing is so absurd, how did he have coverage before this year? He either was covered under his dad's policy or used the Kentucky policy. What is absolutely the most likely scenario is he was on his dad's plan and he continued to be on his dad's plan that had no premium increase or one of an inconsequential amount. Everything else was just made up.

It is amazing the levels of irrational hatred people will continue to harness to try and discredit insurance sign ups. I feel sorry for the son. Besides being saddled with a ridiculous father and grandfather he is portrayed as an imbecile who could not figure out how to answer simple and direct questions, or someone who was in the process of obtaining medicaid, fraudently. The scary part is that Paul and his advisors created this fabricated narrative and felt the need to push it out there. The double dare scary part is there are nearly lobotomized pinheads out there believing this and even parroting it to friends and co workers, perhaps even using it to get ginned up on an Internet forum.

I would like to know what Mr. Paul did behind the scenes to contact the right people in the state he represents to warn them he had discovered an easy way to obtain medicaid without qualifying thus exposing his state to a huge amount of risk and exposure. Certainly that was his first priority when he and his son accidentally committed medicaid fraud.

Sounds good to me. Otherwise if you did open up multi-state access for private insurance companies you simply make it so they have to offer the most consumer friendly option from the states they are sharing. So if one state had a cap on oop at 6500 and another at 8100, then all plans in both states would have to offer a cap of 6500.

Really the only people helped by multi-state access , besides the private insurance companies, are Virginia insurance reps super special client base who all require national coverage for their health plans.

Is there really a chance Ike might ever be in surgery?

There is 3 things to a case 1) liability 2) damages and 3) a pocket to collect from. Because without a pocket to collect from, the actual damages really do not matter.

So yes the damages will be the same. But in a Med Mal, there is always a deep pocket. The Malpractice insurance is always a million plus and more times then not they have a lot of personal assets to collect from. In a car accident pretty sure the most common coverage is 100,000 300,000 100,000 and few if any assets to collect from. Most states also have a minnimum coverage limits of 25,000, it's surprising how many companies push the cheapest policy rates with the minnimum coverage. Most people who have ever been convicted of a DUI can only find the cheap $25,000 coverage. Of course you could get lucky and get hit by a semi they usually have 2 million in coverage and sometimes work for a company with lots of assets.

So you lose a leg in car accident you get 100,000 from his/her insurance and maybe 100,000 fron your under insurance and then the negligent driver files bankruptcy.

Yeah, dude, definitely.

Seriously, though, what the **** is your point? Besides ldo you're vaguely aware you like doctors and don't like trial lawyers...

I think you're arguing that because sometimes people get ****ed out of full compensation because they are damaged by insolvent tortfeasors, it's UNFAIR for doctors to compensate people that they can afford to compensate. They deserve the right to **** people over more!

Jesus ****ing Christ. I cannot believe we let you vote.

Currently, right now, there is no public accounting for this type of error. There's no publicly available data for such a pattern of misconduct, so good luck at establishing those facts in court. The hospital, practice, doctor and staff aren't going to help you very often.

In ikes system that he's copied from others, doctors would not be licensed in perpetuity if they were making bad mistakes.

It's a certainty son

Ikes' online persona certainly aligns with what I understand most people gunning to be surgeons in med school are like.