Affordable healthcare. That's a oxymoron.

Thanks! I'm good now.

Dr. Ikes,

Do you believe all that tobacco causes cancer science mumbo-jumbo?

Of course not.

Yesterday, Sebelius said Obamacare will cost no jobs. Every economists agrees. FOXNews had a field day. Every hour they interviewed a economist who said Obamacare will cost jobs.

I'm sure university of phoenix was proud of each and every one of their graduates for being on air

looool negs. Yeah, Fox continuing to lie about the CBO report is going to MURDER Obamacare's approval among the eldery scared white people demographic who already watched Fox News. It's practically repealed.

I wonder if 24 actual economists have been on Fox News so far this year. I'd take the under.

LOoool Fly. Do you actually believe that ACA will not cost any jobs? Does it not matter to you when are government officials outright lie? Or are you still mad that it was Obama who has the lie of the year and not the Reps or fox news?

It's pretty basic economic principle you raise the cost of labor and the demand drops. Even the CBO report agrees with this.

"Beginning in 2015, employers of 50 or more full-timeequivalent
workers that do not offer health insurance
(or that offer health insurance that does not meet certain
criteria) will generally pay a penalty. That penalty will
initially reduce employers’ demand for labor and thereby
tend to lower employment."

Hey just a reminder, none of you people give a **** about health care policy at any level.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/benjam...b_4804267.html

lol says the guy who said he doesn't care if people can actually see a doctor. Nice.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/one...ing-2014-02-18

One place where Obamacare is helping.

The U.S. healthcare system tends to reward quantity of healthcare over quality of healthcare.

"Believe it or not, we're seeing some good things," Bongiovanni says, "because what's happening now in hospitals is that if the Medicare clients continue to go back to the hospital, hospitals get penalized and they're pretty hefty penalties. So what's happening is that the social workers are making better discharges and it's actually helping seniors."

Obamacare will now reward quality.

#PeakDoctors. You've tried this a couple of times, ikes. OMG I don't agree with the AMA about everything, I hate doctors!(P.S. ikes you once argued that Western medicine didn't improve health outcomes.)

But to get back on point,
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...rmed-obamacare

This is a predictable consequence of staffing a side with people completely uninterested in serious policy understanding. If you don't understand the downsides of Obamacare, you won't be able to find the actual losers.

Ikes, the man who can simultaneously hold the positions that lots of doctors waste lots of time on pointless tests but also any increase in people having healthcare coverage will cause shortages and there is no way to lessen that effect.

lol unnnnnlikely

And it's not agreeing with the AMA dude. It's the general consensus. You also said you didn't care if there was a doctor shortage. So, lol. You really ****ed up there. You can always walk it back though! Feel free.

Phill, the man who doesn't understand basic things but has strong opinions about them. The man also is apparently unable to read, as multiple solutions have been posted itt.

Of course I am for completely open borders, but don't let that stop you from ranting.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...hoices-nearby/

Can't remember who in this thread kept telling me that nobody cares about networks. Still think nobody cares? This is only the beginning...

If they cared enough about it they would choose a plan that offers more providers.

Such a tragedy. Her doctor was temporarily not in her network, but now he will be. Repeal the whole dang thing, I say...

NETWORKS!!!

Iverson'd YP

Networks are like airlines charging for baggage. It is a good way to price discriminate between those who are willing to pay for convenience and those who aren't. But people who get inconvenienced love to complain about it without realizing they are getting lower prices because of it.

Apparently pre-Obamacare all doctors were simultaneously in all networks. Everyone stayed on the same plan forever. Health insurance premiums never went up. No one ever got turned down for pre-existing conditions or had their policy rescinded when they were in the fight of their life with bone cancer. wj94 made a lot of money.

Ah those halcyon days of milk and honey that were healthcare in 2013.

The idiots can't keep their talking points straight because they have no actual views on health care.

Monday: "Why should everyone have a right to the best care? Somebody has to pay for that!"

Tuesday: "Can you believe this? Obamacare is causing networks to contract! He is coming between you and your doctor!"

There is no coherence because there is not a single actual policy preference (other than, perhaps, denying care to poors). The only consistent things are a lack of understanding of the law and absolute knowledge that anything bad that ever happens to anyone, real or imagined, is Obama's fault.

This stuff is pretty interesting, thanks for the link. Its not limited to the ACA, and its early days, but some of the early results of things like affordable care organizations have been pretty encouraging IMO. Massively improving efficiency in our healthcare system is the single best thing the US can do for its economy long-term