HUGE IF TRUE

uhh, well ya. that was pretty obv implied in my post.

They going to have to jack everyone's insurance up if they do that, unless they put in something to let insurance deny coverage.

Graham reiterates, he will in fact intentionally collapse the health insurance system if he doesn't get his way with RepubliCare:

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/...59302470852608

The amount of disdain these politicians show for their own voters is astounding. How do people keep voting for a guy who is openly opposed to their best interests?

Because gay marriage, abortion, GUNZ, God and the person ****ting two stalls over possibly has a vagina

That's it. That's all.

Which is why the public option made sense as a further choice. That was probably Clinton's plan in the long run.

AFAIK no one thinks a death spiral will happen. It'll eventually settle down into a stable pool. What's happening now is what would happen on a much larger scale if the new Healthcare law passes
Premiums would spike, people would leave the market and it would settle down for those remaining.

https://twitter.com/CAPAction/status/842181519057797121

Holy **** how is this guy in charge of Health and Human Services. How the **** did these people get confirmed.


https://twitter.com/CNN/status/842193303240073216

Is there a vote in the house tomorrow? Where are we right now?

Yeah this is how they deconstruct the administrative state. Split decision making between 50 different legislatures where any idiot can be a swing vote on a bill that brings back a measles or mumps outbreak. WAAF

I don't understand the process details, but there is a vote in the House Budget Committee tomorrow. That vote could be postponed if the Rs think they'd lose. It sounds like, for practical purposes, this version of the bill is toast if that happens.

So Dems **** up by passing culture-changing legislation without a single gop vote (save Roberts)

GOP ****s up doing exactly the same thing

Insanity

Like the GOP would have ever voted for any healthcare legislation that Obama proposed. Republicans threatened to blackball Olympia Snowe for even talking to Democrats about the ACA.

You still don't get it and apparently you never will. Opposition was the GOP's only move. And it worked like a charm.

Why should Democrats lift a finger in helping Republicans take away health insurance from millions of people, and raise the cost of insurance for everybody else through Death Spirals in RepubliCare? No, if they really care about the nation, the best thing they can do is OBSTRUCT, OBSTRUCT, OBSTRUCT.

The Tom Price town hall was shocking. Some highlights

* You can't judge the quality of a program by how much money gets put into it. The cuts to Medicaid will actually strengthen it.

* He used this same argument to defend cutting mental health benefits to zero, after first stating that mental health was one of his top 3 priorities.

(Yes he actually said you can't judge the quality of medicaid's mental health benefits by how much money goes into it, when they are literally cutting it to zero.)

* He kept emphasizing the uniqueness of each individual and their freedom to buy the health coverage they needed. He implied that if you don't believe in your children getting immunizations, then there should be a health insurance policy available for you to purchase that doesn't cover that (because you don't want it).

I hate the argument if "I don't use it, why should I pay for it"

Should people without kids pay for any public schooling?

We all pay for things we don't use. We still benefit. Like public schools. A healthier population is better for all. We need healthy young people to take care of older, sick people. Healthy people are far more productive in all aspects of life.




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I completely get it

Im just commenting on why it was a setup for failure in 2010, and this dumpster fire of 2017 will be worse.

Whatever plan the GOP ends up with has to 1) have open hearings, and 2) not pass with the same reconciliation tricks Reid used Otherwise, its the country taking another big step into a partisan death spiral

They can only pass on reconciliation from what I understand because they won't have 60 votes in the Senate.

ACA passed with 60 votes in the Senate. What reconciliation tricks are you referring to?

He's desperate to paint strident Republican opposition as Democrats' fault to distract from the fact that his team is a clownshow uninterested in governance outside of tax cuts for the rich. The end.

So AHCA passed in the Budget Committee 19-17. Full House vote up next. 538 says it will be close. Not sure how quickly they can schedule it.

I'm curious to see how this plays out.

My rep is a Republican named Mark Amodei. (R-Nev) One of the right wing-nut websites gives him an F grade in terms of voting, which doesn't surprise me. One of the benefits of living in a small state is you can actually call up your rep and talk to him - my wife arranged an interview with him for a project she was filming and he struck me as thoughtful and reasonable, which probably explains the above F grade.

He's said several times that he would happily vote to repeal Obamacare ONCE a realistic replacement plan was proposed. Which hasn't happened yet, and Ryan and his gang of idiots are going to squeezing for every vote they can get. My gestalt is that his seat is safe enough that he can vote no if he wants, but it would likely get him on the bad list with the higher ups - and our state GOP thought it was a good idea to run the bat**** crazy Sharon Angle against Harry Reid a few years ago, blowing the chance to put that slimy turd out of office.

He should probably get sick for a few days and miss the vote....

MM MD

Each rep has the same number of constituents (700k give or take).

Congressman Ted Lieu on MSNBC this am:

"I can sum up for you in one word why Trumpcare doesn't work: MATH."

Lol.