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Giving Trump the wall is a win for him. Then he turns around and says that he got the wall while saving the Dreamers and CHIP, proving to himself and deplorables that he is a great businessman.

01-21-2018 , 04:57 PM

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iron81

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lol Rs scheduling the last CR to expire on the inauguration anniversary one week before the SOTU.

01-21-2018 , 05:14 PM

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ScreaminAsian

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if shutting down the government until a day before the midterm elections this november is what you say, i love it

01-21-2018 , 06:03 PM

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So ... what's the Republican end-game here? What defines a win for them at this point?

01-21-2018 , 06:07 PM

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lol Rs scheduling the last CR to expire on the inauguration anniversary one week before the SOTU.

Yeah I don’t think all this played out according to their plan.

01-21-2018 , 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by verneer

So ... what's the Republican end-game here? What defines a win for them at this point?

Getting the narrative to be that this is the fault of the democrats.

01-21-2018 , 06:17 PM

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David Sklansky

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What’s it called when you don’t feel any humanity towards them while at the same time you actively work the levers of the government to cause them harm?

Stop already. I was merely agreeing with the guy that said he hated Obama specifically and was looking for revenge, and that hate it had little to do with his distaste for most black people.

01-21-2018 , 06:24 PM

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I hear that sort of logic come from neo-Nazis hating (((Soros))) and (((bankers))). And we know what (((banker))) is codeword for.

01-21-2018 , 07:29 PM

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So far today, Dems have proposed a clean bill to keep the govt open for 3 days, a clean bill to keep the govt open for a week, a clean CHIP bill, a clean DACA bill, and a bill to pay the military during the shutdown. Turtle has refused to bring any of them for a vote, even though they all had some R support.

Stephen Miller has told Trump he shouldn't settle for anything outside of a full wall, zero immigration, no DACA, and no CHIP. **** all of them.

01-21-2018 , 08:52 PM

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Funding trumps wall is a slam dunk deal if it saves the dreamers from deportation. Dreamers deported is a disaster

Don't fold to an impossible bluff. Do you have any idea of the optics of trying to deport 600k dreamers, not to mention the schools, businesses, friends, and family they are associated with? The GOP is negotiating by holding the trigger to a suicide vest. Call their bluff.

01-21-2018 , 08:53 PM

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https://twitter.com/alanhe/status/955153178567364610

https://twitter.com/AJentleson/statu...92071694028800

01-21-2018 , 08:54 PM

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Matty Lice

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LOL so Steven Miller gonna get ****canned in a week or two.

01-21-2018 , 08:56 PM

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So ... what's the Republican end-game here? What defines a win for them at this point?

They have no clue what they are doing. underpantsgnomes.jpg.

Best case scenario, they get enough feckless dems to fold and Rs get everything they want with no political fallout.

01-21-2018 , 08:57 PM

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It's not a bluff. They're already deporting whoever they can get their hands on however they have to do it. Also they don't care about optics. Hope that helps.

01-21-2018 , 09:02 PM

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I guess the most likely R win is we get the bipartisan deal already worked out, Trump does a victory tour, and things go back to whatever you would call normal this last year.

01-21-2018 , 09:22 PM

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It's not a bluff. They're already deporting whoever they can get their hands on however they have to do it. Also they don't care about optics. Hope that helps.

They don't have to know it's a bluff for it to be a bluff. (And enough DO know, though perhaps not the majority.)

01-21-2018 , 09:37 PM

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And either way, it’s not like we’ll be the ones being deported if you’re wrong on the bluff thing.

01-21-2018 , 09:52 PM

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01-21-2018 , 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aflametotheground

Funding trumps wall is a slam dunk deal if it saves the dreamers from deportation. Dreamers deported is a disaster

just make Trump dictator if your strategy is to let him take random hostages and then meet his demands to save the hostage. this might be the single worst post in the history of the politics board.