schumer: "this should be called the trump shutdown"

better make it a huge one

IRS?

CHIP being used as a bargaining chip is worst part of all this.

Do the Rs want anything besides a clean CR? Assuming they are happy to let CHIP and DACA die.

They want the wall funded and changes to legal migration. They will not vote for a clean CR, because then they can't hold CHIP and DACA hostage. If they cant hold CHIP and DACA hostage then they have no leverage over changes in immigration policy more generally.

I am Kentucky through and through, and will defend Kentucky a large majority of the time...

But I am so sorry for Mitch. It absolutely pains me Kentucky caused him.

Everyone poops.

McTurtle isn't even a KY native; he's an immigrant from ****hole Alabama. I vote to deport.

https://twitter.com/KhaledBeydoun/st...25303753777154

Cheese:

Doug Jones is acutely aware that he's walking a political tight rope, (i.e. a Democrat representing a deeply red state), and that he'll be up for re-election to a full six year term in 2020. If the Alabama GOP had not committed political suicide by nominating Roy Moore, Jones (very likely) would not have been elected; so his being in the Senate [at all] is pretty much a fluke.

Nobody can predict the future, but Doug Jones has to assume that Alabama Republicans won't be so stupid two years from now - they won't nominate another Roy Moore and make it easy for him. Assuming the Alabama GOP nominates a non-crazy candidate who is properly vetted, (i.e. no "pedo problem" or other embarrassing personal history), there's an excellent chance that the GOP will retake Doug Jones Senate seat. Jones's only chance of winning re-election two years from now is being seen (and perceived) as not-too-liberal - and he knows that.

If Doug wins re-election two years from now, he might vote [occasionally] with the Dems, but nobody should expect him to go overboard progressive. This is Alabama - not Vermont. Doug understands his home state pretty well. He's a pragmatist and he's smart. Hopefully he'll play his cards right and be re-elected two years from now. (It's a good feeling to know I'm not the only "librul" in Alabama ...)

Is this dude right about the military?

https://youtu.be/V0u_VZ6pk7o

LOL!! What would be even more hilarious is Trump stuck in the White House waiting for the Senate to end the shutdown while he tweet storms about Obama golfing while he's missing his $100,000/plate Mar-a-Lago first anniversary "I'm The Greatest President Ever!" celebration.

Over time I've become more and more convinced that the only reason Trump ran for President in the first place is his deep animosity and hatred toward Barack Obama. At times it appears that Trump's sole motivation is to undo and reverse everything Obama achieved while he was in office - regardless of whether or not it's good policy. I really believe that Trump hates Obama with a passion.

Doug Jones is up for reelection in 6 years

wat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._Alabama,_2020

No he hats black people with a passion.

Jones is not going to convert Alabama republicans and beat their boring nonpedophile candidate next go around.

In fact the only tiny way he could ever win would be by becoming ultra progressive and inspiring minorities and women to continue to come out and vote.

So yeah he does deserve hate because hes taking the single approach that leaves him drawing dead going forward while also voting abhorrently.

It's very possible that Jones was only a Democrat when compared to Moore rather than actually being a leftist.

Clearly Jones isn't a leftist, but who does he think his constituency is going to be in 2020? Republicans aren't voting for him against a non pedo, and he'll be painted by the Alabama media as a socialist regardless of his voting record. So his move is to also turn off democrats that voted for him?

Hence people rightfully hating on him

I am on board for pushing the shutdown in the short term because it will absolutely drive trump insane.

Of course that has to be balanced versus lots of people not getting paid for doing their jobs.

Yup.

Nice to see the Democrats not playing into the GOP's hands.

The GOP is a truly sinister party.

It was always going to be hard to find a Democratic politician to cast as the villain in connection with Democrats holding together to shut down the government in defense of DACA and CHIP, but I knew you guys could do it. Extra style points for making it the guy who was a national liberal hero just over a month ago.

Women and minorities in Alabama are not ultra progressive. Doug Jones was a strong candidate partly because he overlapped well with dem voters in AL.