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The Great Equifax Pant ****ting of 2017 The Great Equifax Pant ****ting of 2017

09-08-2017 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
That's bull****. Anyone could argue that someone was just clicking buttons, or using your stolen information, to disqualify you from a lawsuit.
Yep.
09-08-2017 , 07:32 PM
Hell, don't they just run all their data through their website. Blammo, no lawsuit.
09-08-2017 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I guess you just call up the Russians now if you want to know about your credit score.
Could we just ask poconoder?
09-09-2017 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
There are people walking around DC right now who believe that these credit reporting agencies are vastly over-regulated
Ever wonder how just 3 credit reporting agencies got so powerful in the first place? Consumers have very little rights when it comes to credit reporting. Any Tom, Dick, or Jane with a business can damage your credit. You will be presumed guilty by the credit agency they reported to unless you can prove otherwise.

As bad as this breach is, and the incompetency it shows on the part of credit bureaus, I'm not as alarmed as maybe I should be for some reason.

You should be closely monitoring your credit on a regular basis anyway and you don't need to pay anyone to do that. You should also regularly check ALL your financial accounts including investment accounts, credit cards, mortgages, banks, and even insurance companies you do business with. Lastly, make sure to have strong passwords on all these accounts of at least 12 characters or more.

It's just common sense, but it's amazing how lax some people are with these things. I think the biggest concern is someone stealing your identity for medical services. Credit card and bank fraud are easily caught. But if someone uses your identity for a medical service, not only might that go unnoticed for a while, but will be a nightmare trying to prove to the credit bureaus that it was a case of identity theft.
09-09-2017 , 01:59 AM
I set aside a few hours on the first Sunday of every month to review paperwork, do computer backups and tasks like that. Check and log my investment accounts, check my bank statements and various bills to match against payments/withd/dep, organize receipts and warranties, look at my electric bill and cable bill. Every 6th month I'll review my insurance policies. The one in March is always my taxes. I pull my annualcreditreport once a year and usually grab another set later in the year and supplement with Credit Karma and Sesame.

It's a minor chore but back in the days I didn't have this routine I wasn't very organized. If my TV broke after 5 months I was usually screwed since I'd toss receipts and never fill out a warranty card, and I'd have to dig through stuff to find a tax return or whatever. It's been a life hack for me to straighten this out and I don't tend to miss things like my deal period with my TV package ending and getting hiked to standard price.

I agree with Letstat on the point that you just need to keep on top of this stuff, pretty much everybody with anything worth protecting should assume their info will be occasionally compromised.
09-09-2017 , 09:54 AM
I read that you're supposed to receive a notification in the mail if your info was stolen in this breach. Is that true? They're going to mail out 143 million letters? When can I expect such a letter? I'm not entering my data into that site.

If I was a victim, what exactly is there to do about it? Apply to change my SSN?
09-09-2017 , 11:24 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/p...010153057.html


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However, I then decided to try it out for myself. First, I entered my real information...and received the bad news.

"Based on the information provided, we believe that your personal information may have been impacted by this incident," the site said.

I was then encouraged on the next line to continue my enrollment in TrustedID Premier. I was not aware I was enrolling in anything simply by giving my information. I had been instructed to add my last name and the last six digits of my Social Security number only to find out if I'd been impacted.

So then I decided to test the system with a different last name and six random numbers. I used the more popular English spelling of my last name for this purpose, entering "Burr" instead of "Buhr" and entered six random numbers I don't even remember now.

Sure enough, this made-up person had also been impacted. I tried it over and over again and got the same message. The only time I did not get the message I'd been impacted was when I entered "Elmo" as the last name and "123456" as my Social Security number.

Some of my colleagues also tried to fool the system and came up with different outcomes. Sometimes, after entering a made-up name, the site said they had been impacted. A few times it said they were not.

Others have tweeted they received different answers after entering the same information.

The assignment seems random. But, nevertheless, they were still asked to continue enrolling in TrustID.

What this means is not only are none of the last names tied to your Social Security number, but there's no way to tell if you were really impacted.

It's clear Equifax's goal isn't to protect the consumer or bring them vital information. It's to get you to sign up for its revenue-generating product TrustID.
09-09-2017 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by heehaww
I read that you're supposed to receive a notification in the mail if your info was stolen in this breach. Is that true? They're going to mail out 143 million letters? When can I expect such a letter? I'm not entering my data into that site.

If I was a victim, what exactly is there to do about it? Apply to change my SSN?
I assume they're going to drag their feet and any info they send out will be blatantly dishonest. so I guess keep checking reliable news outlets. Good news is that with 10^8 people affected I'm sure updates will be in the news. I'm not optimistic. My guess is these scumbags who were wildly irresponsible with your info will probably get a slap on the wrist and the rest of us will get a $20 gift card or something.

I doubt changing your SSN is worth the hassle since it's a near-lock it will be compromised again (happened to me three times). Keep practicing good internet security: don't use the same password on multiple websites, try not to use the same username, don't give out your real birthday, etc. One woman I know studies hacking and cybercrime as part of her job and she's crazy paranoid; Rroutinely tears up her credit cards and asks for new ones. Actually, maybe she's not so paranoid.
09-09-2017 , 12:28 PM
WaPo has an article on freezing your credit to thwart would-be thieves

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...your-identity/

Anyone think that's a good idea?
09-09-2017 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
WaPo has an article on freezing your credit to thwart would-be thieves

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...your-identity/

Anyone think that's a good idea?
A+ idea; signing up now, can't believe this isn't standard.
09-09-2017 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
WaPo has an article on freezing your credit to thwart would-be thieves

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...your-identity/

Anyone think that's a good idea?
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
A+ idea; signing up now, can't believe this isn't standard.
Does sound like a good idea, but man, this ****ing racket:

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Freezing your credit comes with a $5 to $10 charge for each credit bureau.
Turns out losing the credit information of the entire United States is going to be a big financial boon for ALL CREDIT AGENCIES
09-09-2017 , 02:55 PM
The scale of this is just colossal. If 5% of those affected sign up for a freeze with two agencies that's a cool $70M robbed from the American people. How the hell are we not lining people up against the wall and shooting them? **** Bernie Sanders, the far left should rallying behind Robespierre.
09-09-2017 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I assume they're going to drag their feet and any info they send out will be blatantly dishonest. so I guess keep checking reliable news outlets. Good news is that with 10^8 people affected I'm sure updates will be in the news. I'm not optimistic. My guess is these scumbags who were wildly irresponsible with your info will probably get a slap on the wrist and the rest of us will get a $20 gift card or something.

I doubt changing your SSN is worth the hassle since it's a near-lock it will be compromised again (happened to me three times). Keep practicing good internet security: don't use the same password on multiple websites, try not to use the same username, don't give out your real birthday, etc. One woman I know studies hacking and cybercrime as part of her job and she's crazy paranoid; Rroutinely tears up her credit cards and asks for new ones. Actually, maybe she's not so paranoid.
So, as an internet noob that has always just assumed that everyone that wanted my info, had my info, do the sites like LastPass and the like really work? I hate passwords (capital letter, lowercase letter, number, special symbol, **** that ****), so I'm the idiot who tends to use the same password for a whole bunch of stuff. I suck, I know.
09-09-2017 , 05:24 PM
LastPass is legit. Be sure to set up two factor authentication with Google Authenticator
09-09-2017 , 07:03 PM
What if I just freeze my credit? I have no debt or credit cards. Would this solve any and all identity theft concerns?
09-09-2017 , 07:45 PM
it'll damn sure make life a lot harder for anyone trying to steal your credit. See the article I linked earlier.

I'm still kinda curious if just using the equifax search tool to see if your data was lost auto-signs you up for their monitoring and removes your ability to sue/join a class action

ALSO, and probably more important, depending on how quickly the thieves are able to sell all that info, I wonder if would-be criminals could put a freeze on your credit and set up a pin that only they have access to, thus restricting your ability to freeze and unfreeze your own credit
09-09-2017 , 07:45 PM
Freezing your credit sounds like an enormous ass ache whenever you need to borrow money, rent an apartment, pass a background check, change cell phone providers, open a bank account, rent a car, etc.
09-09-2017 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Freezing your credit sounds like an enormous ass ache whenever you need to borrow money, rent an apartment, pass a background check, change cell phone providers, open a bank account, rent a car, etc.
I don't see a need for any of these things
09-09-2017 , 07:57 PM
I can rent a car locally with a deposit
09-09-2017 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bowens
So, as an internet noob that has always just assumed that everyone that wanted my info, had my info, do the sites like LastPass and the like really work? I hate passwords (capital letter, lowercase letter, number, special symbol, **** that ****), so I'm the idiot who tends to use the same password for a whole bunch of stuff. I suck, I know.
I feel ya. It's probably nbd if your Netflix password and your 2p2 are the same. Problem is if your Facebook or banking passwords are the same as your 2p2 password and you foolishly gave Facebook your real birthday and 2p2 gets hacked; now thieves have probably all they need to do damage.

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Originally Posted by zikzak
Freezing your credit sounds like an enormous ass ache whenever you need to borrow money, rent an apartment, pass a background check, change cell phone providers, open a bank account, rent a car, etc.
Sounds like it's relatively quick to unfreeze and can be done online.
09-09-2017 , 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Freezing your credit sounds like an enormous ass ache whenever you need to borrow money, rent an apartment, pass a background check, change cell phone providers, open a bank account, rent a car, etc.
All the agencies allow you to lift a security freeze for 24 hours in case you want to do something that requires a hard pull on your credit.
09-09-2017 , 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I feel ya. It's probably nbd if your Netflix password and your 2p2 are the same. Problem is if your Facebook or banking passwords are the same as your 2p2 password and you foolishly gave Facebook your real birthday and 2p2 gets hacked; now thieves have probably all they need to do damage.
Lol, the thieves just proved they don't need to **** hacking 2p2 anymore.
09-09-2017 , 11:29 PM
+1 to using a password manager like LastPass or Keepass. They're free and easy to use too.
09-10-2017 , 12:32 AM
Is Equifax publicly traded? Can I short them some kinda way?
09-10-2017 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ineedaride2
Is Equifax publicly traded? Can I short them some kinda way?
Yes, but their stock already lost ~14% of its value overnight when this was announced Thursday evening. You can always bet it will get worse for them!

      
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