The GOP war on voting - Page 163 - Politics and Economics

Namath was saying the morons in the district will elect him in the new election and it will be like nothing happened even though he should be a ****ing felon

02-22-2019 , 11:53 AM

#4052

Namath12

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 55,849

Well it looks like he may not even run. NPR reported this morning that it's a WHOLE NEW election, like from scratch, new primaries and all not just running it twice with the same two guys. We could wind up with two completely different nominees potentially, though it's likely that the Dem will win it again and may run unopposed. Apparently Harris had primaried the Repub who held that seat before 2018 which I somehow did not know until last night.

GOP has held that seat since 1963.

02-28-2019 , 10:21 AM

#4053

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 99,984

CONSERVATIVE EXPERT PRIVATELY WARNED GOP DONORS THAT A VOTING RIGHTS BILL WOULD HELP DEMOCRATS

Quote:

By the end of the month, hearings were held on Capitol Hill. One of the witnesses before the House Judiciary Committee hearings was Hans von Spakovsky, a former Federal Election Commission member who is now a senior legal fellow at the Heritage Foundation. Von Spakovsky used high-minded and principled language to oppose the bill. In his prepared testimony, he wrote that H.R.1 is “clearly unconstitutional,” complaining that its provisions “come at the expense of federalism.”

Just two weeks later, however, as von Spakovsky addressed a private gathering of conservatives, he was considerably more candid about his reason for opposing the bill: It would be bad for Republicans

Quote:

In his closing remarks, von Spakovsky said that even early voting could strain GOP campaign efforts because the provision might undermine the effort to deploy “poll watchers.” Republicans have been accused of using poll watchers to unreasonably challenge the eligibility of voters when they attempt to vote.

“It is tough enough getting enough folks on our side to be poll watchers on Election Day,” von Spakovsky said at the event. “If you have to find poll watchers for three or four weeks before an election, at numerous early voting sites, that is next to impossible.”

Riiiiiight

02-28-2019 , 12:24 PM

#4054

Namath12

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 55,849

LDO

02-28-2019 , 12:43 PM

#4055

+rep_lol

banned

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 14,900

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/ne...226864674.html

Quote:

McCrae Dowless, the political operative at the center of the 9th District election fraud case, was arrested Wednesday after being indicted on charges related to collecting absentee ballots in the 2018 primary and 2016 election.

Dowless, 63, faces three felony charges of obstruction of justice, two charges of conspiracy to commit obstruction of justice and two charges of possession of absentee ballot.

The charges represent the first criminal prosecution in the absentee ballot fraud case that rocked the 9th Congressional District and resulted in the first new election ordered for fraud in North Carolina history. And according to [Wake County DA] Freeman, the charges may not be the last.

“It’s fair to assume that evidence related to the general election of 2018 will lead to additional charges of additional people,” Freeman said. “The focus of our investigation has been not only what the absentee ballot operation was but who was responsible for funding it and their level of knowledge (about it) . . . We’ll follow the evidence wherever that leads us.”

According to the indictment, Dowless “unlawfully, willfully, and feloniously” submitted absentee ballots and concealed that they were not sent by voters. North Carolina law makes it a felony for anyone other than a voter’s close relative to take possession of their absentee ballot. The charges relate to the 2016 general and 2018 primary elections.

Dowless was called to appear at the Board of Elections hearing, but refused to testify unless he was granted immunity. The board declined.

03-19-2019 , 05:09 PM

#4056

dth123451

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 15,502

Florida gonna Florida: just passed a bill requiring all the reinstated felons to pay court costs to vote, even if not originally assessed court costs.

Straight up poll tax that will be upheld 5-4.

No word on whether Rick Scott has to repay the billion dollars he stole from Medicare to keep being in charge of stuff.

03-19-2019 , 05:48 PM

#4057

cuserounder

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,217

Quote:

Originally Posted by dth123451

Somewhere, in some thread on here that I don't feel like digging up, someone told us that Florida was going to go blue in 2020 because of the reinstated felons. I told them that the Florida GOP had enough power to find a way to keep that from happening...

This is probably just one prong of their attack on that change.

03-19-2019 , 07:36 PM

#4058

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 99,984

I wondered why they seemed to give in so quick. I figured they had something up their sleeves.

03-20-2019 , 01:31 AM

#4059

m_reed05

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 8,611

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I wondered why they seemed to give in so quick. I figured they had something up their sleeves.

I'm sure they aren't done yet. They are probably still holding their best cards back. Once it's a little closer to the 2020 election, all the red states will be throwing all kinds of **** at the wall. Then either they win in court and disenfranchise voters, or they drag it out in court long enough to still disenfranchise voters for 2020, despite losing in court.

03-20-2019 , 09:16 PM

#4060

Bill Haywood

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,150

Reversing voter referendum on felon votes, article.

03-21-2019 , 09:56 AM

#4061

Money2Burn

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 12,628

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Haywood

Reversing voter referendum on felon votes, article.

Yeah. This is not good. There will be a legal battle over the law, if it passes, but my first impression is that it will be tough to win for the good guys.

FWIW, I was one of the people who thought, and still thinks there’s hope for Florida in the coming election cycles. At its core, Florida is a rather progressive state (if you look back over the past two decades we have passed some good, progressive amendments to our constitution) but our legislature has been controlled by cretins due to voter suppression and gerrymandering. If you look at the amendments we’ve passed that I mentioned above, you see a citizenry wanting to do things that are good or progressive (amendments are passed with a super-majority), but for every single one, the legislature has come in behind us and acted in bad faith to undercut or negate the amendments effects. Also, the gubernatorial election margins have been razor thin every election. So this bill is disappointing and will certainly negate the impact of Amendment 4, but I’m still a Florida optimist.

03-21-2019 , 10:16 AM

#4062

Namath12

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 55,849

I'm sure we can rely on Desantis' three freshly-minted supreme court justices to right this wrong

03-21-2019 , 12:08 PM

#4063

Slighted

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 16,758

Quote:

Originally Posted by Money2Burn

everywhere seems to be like that. Oklahoma has passed some of the most progressive drug laws in the country through state questions, but the legislature remains deep red.

every simple possession regardless of drug is a misdemeanor now in oklahoma(i.e. your 6th meth bust is misd.) , medical was easily passed, and people are preparing for recreational within the next year or two..

03-21-2019 , 12:18 PM

#4064

Paul D

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 14,689

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

I'm sure we can rely on Desantis' three freshly-minted supreme court justices to right this wrong

Maybe they started smoking pot after he signed that bill. One can hope.

03-22-2019 , 05:53 AM

#4065

cuserounder

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,217

It's almost as if people support more liberal policies on a lot of issues when the questions are put to them directly, and yet they keep voting for Republicans... Hmm, wonder why?

(Hint: it's three reasons, and they should all be obvious.)

03-22-2019 , 11:05 AM

#4066

dth123451

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 15,502

It’s one.

03-22-2019 , 11:33 AM

#4067

TheNewT50

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Haywood

Reversing voter referendum on felon votes, article.

Good example of the sort of thing that has made me fundamentally lose faith in American society.

03-23-2019 , 06:23 PM

#4068

goofyballer

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 70,719

Wisconsin judge blocks GOP's lame-duck power grab after Walker's loss

Quote:

The three bills enacted during the sessions were extraordinary in breadth. One of them gave the legislature powers usually and exclusively reserved for the attorney general, such as approving legal actions by the state and signing off on lawsuit settlements. Another was aimed at reducing the need for highway construction projects to comply with federal laws governing prevailing wages and minority set-asides. Severe restrictions were imposed limiting the availability of Medicaid.

Republicans pushed through 82 of Walker’s appointments to various state boards and commissions.

Quote:

Dane County Judge Richard G. Niess invalidated the actions, including the appointments. He ruled that the extraordinary session violated the state’s constitution, which allows special sessions only when convened by the governor. Although Walker signed the bills, he did not call the session.

Pretty hilarious if this all gets tossed because the GOP failed to cross their t's correctly in their haste to stop Democrats from governing

03-23-2019 , 07:55 PM

#4069

cuserounder

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,217

Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

Wisconsin judge blocks GOP's lame-duck power grab after Walker's loss

Pretty hilarious if this all gets tossed because the GOP failed to cross their t's correctly in their haste to stop Democrats from governing

Prediction: State Supreme Court allows the power grab, 4-3. SCOTUS allows it, 5-4.

03-24-2019 , 07:32 AM

#4070

+rep_lol

banned

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 14,900

Yea but will you return if/when that happens to remind us how right you were when u predicted it and then feel super smart and good about your life

03-25-2019 , 09:48 PM

#4071

cuserounder

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,217

Quote:

Originally Posted by +rep_lol

Yea but will you return if/when that happens to remind us how sad you are and then tell us how depressing it is that WAAF

Yep.

03-25-2019 , 10:18 PM

#4072

Inso0

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,706

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuserounder

Prediction: State Supreme Court allows the power grab, 4-3. SCOTUS allows it, 5-4.

In fairness, this Madison judge just ignored 150+ years of legislative precedent with this ruling, so it being smacked down in the near future is all but assured and not even a little bit surprising.

Dane county gonna Dane county.

03-25-2019 , 10:24 PM

#4073

cuserounder

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,217

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inso0

Keep celebrating the authoritarianism you support. I just want to let you know that you're entirely anti-American. Keep celebrating the downfall of democracy in your state, Inso0, we expect nothing less from you.

03-26-2019 , 11:28 PM

#4074

goofyballer

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 70,719

FLORIDA, part 1

Parkland students' ballots were rejected at much higher rate than Florida as a whole

Quote:

The problem with Isenberg’s ballot was discovered by Daniel A. Smith, chairman of the political science department at the University of Florida who analyzed Florida’s open-source voting file. A veteran researcher of Florida elections, Smith said that 15 percent of mail-in ballots submitted by Parkland residents between ages 18 and 21 were never counted in the midterm election, far exceeding the statewide average.

Among all Floridians between 18 and 21, about 5.4 percent of mail-in ballots were rejected or uncounted, Smith said. The statewide average of rejected or uncounted mail-in ballots for all ages was 1.2 percent, Smith noted.

HMMMMMMMMMMMM

03-26-2019 , 11:30 PM

#4075

goofyballer

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 70,719

FLORIDA, part 2

Florida legislature gets to work to deny Amendment 4 voting rights to as many felons as possible

Quote:

But Republicans, including Gov. Ron DeSantis, said the amendment required implementing legislation. In particular, GOP leaders said three terms in the amendment — completion, murder and sexual offense — needed to be defined for clarity, so the state’s 67 county elections supervisors could administer the measure uniformly.
...
What Republicans came up with prompted an uproar. One GOP proposal broadly defined sexual offense to include — in addition to violent crimes — video voyeurism, lewd exhibition, prostitution and locating an adult entertainment store within 2,500 feet of a school.

HMMMMMMMM. And they're not done!

Quote:

Lawmakers defined sentence completion to include prison time, probation, parole, fines, fees and restitution declared by a judge to be part of a sentence. More troubling for Amendment 4 advocates, though, was the inclusion of costs that have been converted by a judge to civil liens to allow poor defendants more time to pay. Under those rules, it could take years for an individual who has otherwise completed their sentence to be eligible to vote.

“What this does is it creates an additional sentence, which I don’t think the voters intended to do,” Shelli Freeland Eddie, a criminal defense attorney and city commissioner from Sarasota, told Florida senators in a public hearing Monday.

One woman at the hearing, Coral Nichols from Seminole, served nearly five years for grand theft and fraud and said she is close to completing 10 years of probation. She was also ordered to pay $190,000 in restitution, but the amount was converted to a civil lien long ago, and she pays according to her ability every month, she said.

Nichols said she might never be eligible to vote under the Senate proposal. “I’m a law-abiding citizen,” she said.

HMMMMMMMM

Page 163 of 164

First

63 113 143 153 158 159 160 161 162 163 164

Last

...

Page 163 of 164

First

63 113 143 153 158 159 160 161 162 163 164

Last