The only reason you would need to verify your vote is if there was no physical record of your vote, which is a huge reason to not move forward with digital voting. While I'm sure there is a cryptographically secure way to allow someone to verify their vote without allowing someone else to do so it would be much simpler to simply use paper ballots.

I think some comedian did a bit many years ago about the challenges associated with digital documents. He went on and on about "if only" there was a way to produce documents that were easy to create yet be permanent and difficult to hack.

One of the stagehands then brought out a typewriter and everybody laughed uproariously.

How would a confirmation help if the people running the voting are rigging it? Like, under the assumption they are bad actors, they aren't giving you anything useful that can reverse engineer the malfeasance. So it's basically just an issue of wrangling control away from them and giving it to good actors, in which case none of this extra stuff is necessary. But optical scan paper ballot should be federally-required everywhere.

It's one thing to flip some votes knowing they can never be traced after that. It's a much bigger undertaking to design a vote-flipping system that can survive a potential audit at any time in the future. In the former the program can just delete itself when it's done.

The problem with paper ballots seems to be you need a court order to actually do a recount - and even then they just destroy the ballots with no consequences before you can get it.

A confirmation # introduces a new audit trail that can be traced and examined. I guess you'd also need a receipt which shows how you actually voted. But with those two things hacking votes like what's suggested in the GA case above becomes almost impossible IMO.

Happening now

Now as always, everything negative the GOP ever says is projection. If they say there is rampant voter fraud, its because they are COMMITTING rampant voter fraud.

Right - it's their way of absolving their guilt about it - Democrats must be doing it too.

Look for the Derposphere to dig up some old absentee ballot fraud involving a Democrat and trumpet it 24-7 for a few weeks.

No wonder the white house shut down the voter fraud commission they had going.

its quite clear that american elections are not legal. hopefully the world will band together and implement the opposition party as has happened in venezuela and as I am assured is legal and fair by conservatives.

Should be a huge story but of course it’s not. Also they will throw the book at that woman and do nothing to fix the underlying problem; I’d be shocked if the people who arranged the scheme do more time than her.

Read an article in the Marietta Daily Journal (can't find it right now to link) that Georgia may switch ballot systems to "ballot-marking devices," which are basically hybrid touchscreen/paper ballot machines. You enter your choices on a touchscreen as is done now, but then a paper ballot is printed which is then scanned to officially tally your vote.

Interestingly, it seems that Republicans are for it and Dems are against it. The pros are that it touchscreens eliminate paper ballot problems like confusing ballots and poorly-marked selections and obviously the printed paper ballot is trackable/verifiable. The other benefit is that the actual paper/printing costs are cheaper in the long-run. The con seems to be cost. IIRC, they think it will cost $150 million to implement, versus I think about $30 million to switch to an all-paper ballot system.

Without knowing any more than what I read in the article, I might actually side with the Republicans on this. Aside from cost, it seems good? One Dem (maybe the person who lost the Sec. of State race?) thinks too many people won't check the paper printout to make sure it's right, but that seems like a shaky criticism. The other criticism comes from the Abrams camp - it has to do with someone involved with the company that would make the machines is involved with the Kemp administration or something, so grift.

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A genuinely positive change in voting that has Republican support has me both doing a double take and willing to spend an extra $120 milly like it ain't a thang.

Here's some info on a recent GA Republican election-reform bill:

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regi...IKcPFLjMFQgiP/

There is a long way to go, but shockingly there are a few positive steps (I haven't read the bill, so for all I know, there could be a lot of horrible bull**** in there).

So yeah, the Repub knew the guy he hired to steal votes was stealing votes

This doesn't line up with my understanding. My understanding is that the GOP wants a touch screen system that prints a receipt and the Democrats are pushing for a system that prints a marked ballot which is then scanned.

So this guy's just a straight up crook



And I can't get confirmation on this headline, little help? It reads like Harris is dropping out altogether (also note that he's had TWO STROKES???)

WaPo article isn't fully updated yet but says the board of elections is declaring a new election and that Harris "admitted misspeaking under oath"

lolololol

New election means Harris is running, right?

It's galling that I literally do not know the answer to this question with all the hoopla surrounding it today. I've seen several journos tweeting stuff similar to what I shared above but no one has confirmed anything.

I am only following via this thread.

Are there no penalties (under the scenario in which Harris is found to have committed/abetted serious election violations)?

Not a single story about this on MSN, but I damn sure know all the ins and outs of the Jesse Smollett case.

Gjge America.

Well there’s the likely FEC violation for writing a check to a PAC. He apparently lied under oath (he’s a preacher of course) and he/his lawyers could potentially be held in contempt for not turning over those emails.

But it’s NC and he’s a Repube, so nah no penalties and he will probably win and go serve his term like nothing happened

He will not be serving his term like nothing happened. The Board of Elections ordered a new election.