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10-26-2018 , 09:02 PM
Red states need foreign election monitors like in fledgling third world democracies.
10-26-2018 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
GOP officials are now admitting voting machines are changing Beto votes to Cruz votes. They say they don’t have legal authority to do anything about it.
called it.

but still, holy crap!
10-26-2018 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by goofball
And add 2 seats to the supreme court to restore balance. And add Puerto Rico and DC as states. And restore proportional representation.
restore?
10-27-2018 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...he-other-party

Happening both ways apparently, but of course the machines in question are in the largest (democratic) counties.
From the demonstration I saw that's not quite true. If you select straight Republican then it merely deselects Cruz' name. If you select straight Democrat it directly transfers your vote to Cruz:

https://abc13.com/politics/straight-...anged/4556377/
(Demonstration in the video from 1.36).
10-27-2018 , 02:39 AM
lol this ****ing idiot they quote in the video

Right after explaining that it deselects Cruz for GOP, but changes the vote for Dem, this guy says "I think both sides could be equally hurt". You ****ing serious bro?

I'm surprised it's taken until 2018 for the riggage, whether in Texas or Georgia (or Kobach in Kansas though that's more the garden variety GOP suppression), to become so obvious and blatant. For years and years and years people have sounded the alarm about the total lack of regulation on the integrity, testing, and security of voting machines, and absolutely nothing has happened or changed. If anything, how did it take Republicans this long to realize they can just outright change votes and no one's going to do **** about it?
10-28-2018 , 07:23 PM
Brian Kemp purged 340,000 voters who never even moved from their original address


10-28-2018 , 10:43 PM
Not sure the appropriate thread, but since this is about voting and much of it is about Georgia, I'll put it here.

Will Ferrell was here campaigning for Abrams this weekend. He spoke at The Varsity restaurant in Kennesaw (I'm sad I didn't know about it until a couple hours prior - I was busy and couldn't go). He also went door-to-door canvassing, I think around Kennesaw State University, but I'm not sure. Hopefully he made at least a little dent with the youths in the area.

Of course, I'm sure the Conservatives are all like, "See? Abrams is funded by the West Coast Liberals. The Liberal Hollywood Elite need to keep their values out of our state."
10-28-2018 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
If anything, how did it take Republicans this long to realize they can just outright change votes and no one's going to do **** about it?
Well they didn't have to before, they won enough anyway.

The judges are now all on their side too, they're gonna uphold all the riggage. Maybe that was it part of it as well, didn't have every court to back it up yet.
10-29-2018 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
I'm surprised it's taken until 2018 for the riggage, whether in Texas or Georgia (or Kobach in Kansas though that's more the garden variety GOP suppression), to become so obvious and blatant. For years and years and years people have sounded the alarm about the total lack of regulation on the integrity, testing, and security of voting machines, and absolutely nothing has happened or changed. If anything, how did it take Republicans this long to realize they can just outright change votes and no one's going to do **** about it?
They've been brazenly doing this for much longer (e.g., Chambliss 2002). It's just that no one wanted to accept it. I mean, George W. Bush was bad, but he at least held the decorum of the office enough that people went back to crushing candy and buying luxury compact crossovers. It took a fascist game show host stuffing toddlers into dog kennels to get their attention.
11-02-2018 , 03:16 PM
If the courts aren't going to do anything, what's left?

11-02-2018 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
If the courts aren't going to do anything, what's left?

Democrats need to organize to overcome these efforts, win elections and pass federal laws to prohibit this nonsense and put REAL punishments in place for those who continue to attack the voting rights of various groups.

At this point, I hope the Kansas Democratic Party, DNC or Democratic Governor's Association has buses ready to go for voters in Dodge City. If not, the incompetence is off the charts and what we should do is get involved ourselves.

If 2018 doesn't go well, I'll be doing more than donating and volunteering in 2020 - I haven't decided exactly what yet, but I'll be looking to make a full-time difference.
11-02-2018 , 04:48 PM
^^ trouble is, the votes don't get counted, we lose, and then it's impossible to "fix" because we still have no power

And they pull this **** late in the campaign cycle so that by the time the non-Trumpy courts DO decide in our favor, it's too close to the election to do anything about it. That is intentional.

11-02-2018 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
^^ trouble is, the votes don't get counted, we lose, and then it's impossible to "fix" because we still have no power

And they pull this **** late in the campaign cycle so that by the time the non-Trumpy courts DO decide in our favor, it's too close to the election to do anything about it. That is intentional.

To be clear, I am personally outraged by what is going on... but from a strategic standpoint, the only way to do anything about it is to win elections, change laws and appoint judges. The only way to win elections is to cast more votes (that get counted) than the other side. So basically we need to organize to overcome what they're doing in order to prevent it in the future.

Like, maybe that means starting a PAC or some sort of non-profit organization that is prepared to mobilize before each election to either get voters to the polls in cases like Dodge City, or help people print IDs in cases like North Dakota. Think of it as the political version of the Red Cross, waiting to mobilize to places where it is needed at a moment's notice... And the rest of the year it can work on helping people register to vote and get ID in states where the DMVs have been shut down and transportation is an issue.
11-02-2018 , 05:34 PM
Apparently it would be "too confusing" to open up a second polling place, in the spot where it had normally been in the past, while also keeping the distant one.

Confusing for whom is tough to figure out.
11-02-2018 , 10:45 PM
Kemp just lost in court, again. I’m sure oversight from...himself will be robust.
11-02-2018 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
Kemp just lost in court, again. I’m sure oversight from...himself will be robust.


Like today again or just all the times he’s lost recently?
11-04-2018 , 01:37 PM
This seems to fit best in here because Kemp has been a big figure in the GOP war on voting, and there's not a thread for governor's races. This piece of **** is now opening an investigation into Georgia Democrats as a last minute distraction from all the garbage he's done.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...s-for-possible
11-04-2018 , 02:01 PM
Sorry, everyone. It was me. Didn't think I'd get caught. I used my old 56K Zoom modem to try to match the voting system's technology - guess I was too spot on.
11-04-2018 , 06:59 PM
Well I guess I'm encouraged that Kemp thinks his situation is this desperate. And terrified the lengths these ****ers will go to to hold onto power.
11-04-2018 , 07:20 PM
Faux news has even realized the Georgia investigation is a sham. They pulled it from their front page already.
11-04-2018 , 07:27 PM
Kemp belongs in jail. He's every bit as bad as Kobach, a complete and total scumbag.
11-04-2018 , 08:30 PM
Somebody on the right is projecting?

What a ****ing shock!
11-05-2018 , 03:11 AM
There should be like a 100,000 vote penalty or something for the **** Kemp pulled with the "investigation."
11-05-2018 , 11:25 AM
I'm worried that Kemp won't even certify the election if it comes back in Abrams favor.

      
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