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The GOP war on voting The GOP war on voting

08-05-2018 , 06:12 PM
i mean, aside from a few rich republicans who usually get caught. Odd that Dems aren't trying to erect barriers stopping the rich from voting, though, huh?
08-05-2018 , 06:51 PM
Do the math
08-05-2018 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
And this, yesterday, from the Party of Election Integrity

Mitch McConnell is ugly as sin.
08-06-2018 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
That would require a constitutional amendment. States have almost complete autonomy when it comes to election rules and regulations.
Would it though? We've seen (for example) gun laws in places like DC struck down because they were unconstitutional. Why would voting laws be held to a different standard?
08-06-2018 , 04:10 PM
08-08-2018 , 05:32 PM
The war on voting has multiple fronts.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-one-precinct/

"Georgia defends voting system despite 243-percent turnout in one precinct"

Voting machines are not trustworthy. They lack the checks required to be trusted. They are inferior to paper ballots.
08-09-2018 , 11:33 AM
GA and NC elections are both shady AF.
08-09-2018 , 11:38 AM
I have yet to hear a single justification for not having at least paper receipts, vast majority seems to think they're a good idea and yet...nothing (except VOTER ID)
08-09-2018 , 11:39 AM
The GOP needs to cheat to win in georgia? Do they have any support that isn't astroturfed?
08-09-2018 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
The GOP needs to cheat to win in georgia? Do they have any support that isn't astroturfed?
They don't really need to cheat, yet, probably. There are some major demo shifts happening in GA though so the time may be coming. And if/when they do it, they'll get away with it.

https://politics.myajc.com/news/stat...30BS6fGDm3CVI/
08-10-2018 , 02:49 AM
08-10-2018 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
GA and NC elections are both shady AF.
ohio is like hold my beer

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...ace/945772002/

just straight up not count votes from dem leaning areas. ezgame.
08-10-2018 , 10:57 AM
There should be a national voting policy. Leaving it to the states was, is and always will be one of the dumbest ideas in the history of this country.
08-10-2018 , 11:16 AM
What are Dems doing to check that the elections are fair? Just gonna take their word for it that minority turnout was way down or that R's outperformed polling by 3-5 points in all the key races?
08-10-2018 , 11:22 AM
The buck stops with the Secretary of State of whatever state we're talking about.

Kobach is gonna straight up steal his primary election and it's barely a blip because whatcha gonna do sue me?
08-10-2018 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawnmower Man
What are Dems doing to check that the elections are fair? Just gonna take their word for it that minority turnout was way down or that R's outperformed polling by 3-5 points in all the key races?
what did they do in 2000? when they knew they actually received more votes in florida and thus won the election? in the interest of civility they let it go and conceded.

you think th,ssey are gonna do a damn thing on some circumstantial evidence and odd looking numbers (no matter how impossible they are)?
08-11-2018 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
what did they do in 2000? when they knew they actually received more votes in florida and thus won the election? in the interest of civility they let it go and conceded.

you think th,ssey are gonna do a damn thing on some circumstantial evidence and odd looking numbers (no matter how impossible they are)?
One would hope to think that was a lesson to be learned. It's possible that fighting tooth and nail would've led to a presidency where, perhaps 9/11 happens, but we don't invade Iraq and incur all the damage that came and still comes with it...
08-11-2018 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
what did they do in 2000? when they knew they actually received more votes in florida and thus won the election? in the interest of civility they let it go and conceded.

you think th,ssey are gonna do a damn thing on some circumstantial evidence and odd looking numbers (no matter how impossible they are)?
That went to the SC. Saying they "conceded" doesn't seem right.
08-11-2018 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
That went to the SC. Saying they "conceded" doesn't seem right.
Pretty sure they didn’t receive more votes either.
08-12-2018 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
what did they do in 2000? when they knew they actually received more votes in florida and thus won the election? in the interest of civility they let it go and conceded.

you think th,ssey are gonna do a damn thing on some circumstantial evidence and odd looking numbers (no matter how impossible they are)?
Well first they need the evidence, and they aren't getting it from any GOP-controlled states. In a year where election integrity is in question, it seems like they should have a plan to strategically fund high-quality exit polls or (possibly) EVEPs in certain districts and precincts. Instead, they're gonna sit potripper with no hand histories.
08-12-2018 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
The GOP needs to cheat to win in georgia? Do they have any support that isn't astroturfed?
I don't know if they're strictly cheating on ballots. But I did live in Georgia at one time and the way they maintain control is by a very extreme diet of gerrymandering and judge selection that basically means black Georgians are practically excluded from the process. Add in mass incarceration and strict voter ID laws and you have a recipe for a very healthy control of the government by the republican party. God knows what actual % of support they would have if everyone voted.

Oh yeah a lot of undocumented workers in Georgia too. Those people get a vote, these jackass Republicans are out of a job in a heartbeat. And they know that. #Internationalism.
08-12-2018 , 11:42 AM
Georgia erased the election data from the main server and degaussed the backups the day after the case against them was moved to federal court.
08-12-2018 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawnmower Man
Georgia erased the election data from the main server and degaussed the backups the day after the case against them was moved to federal court.
yeah not sure if there's a more "we falsified voting data" tell, than deleting all of the data

7/3- law suit filed
7/4- secretary of state told about lawsuit
7/6- state served with copy of lawsuit
7/7 all election data deleted/erased
08-12-2018 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by KellyRae
Pretty sure they didn’t receive more votes either.
Multiple investigations determined gore would have won a full recount.
08-13-2018 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Multiple investigations determined gore would have won a full recount.
If you say so, boss. Pretty sure they did count the votes, though.

      
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