Have a feeling this is going to become a popular thread again - with GOP hero Kris Kobach heading up Trump's special suppress the vote effort. Let us first lol at Chiefsplanet:
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Originally Posted by AustinChief
This is long overdue. Saying "I don't see any evidence" of voter fraud is not the same as actually bothering to LOOK and not finding any. Sadly, when we do actually look for it we invariably find some.
Hopefully this will lead to reforms and massive updates to our piece of **** antiquated system.
Of course is just flat out wrong. You might find some in absentee voting, but Republicans won't touch that - because old people like to vote that way. But tons and tons of studies have looked into in-person voter fraud (including lots of conservative watchdogs of course).
https://www.brennancenter.org/analys...ter-fraud-myth
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Studies Agree: Impersonation Fraud by Voters Very Rarely Happens
- The Brennan Center’s seminal report on this issue, The Truth About Voter Fraud, found that most reported incidents of voter fraud are actually traceable to other sources, such as clerical errors or bad data matching practices. The report reviewed elections that had been meticulously studied for voter fraud, and found incident rates between 0.0003 percent and 0.0025 percent. Given this tiny incident rate for voter impersonation fraud, it is more likely, the report noted, that an American “will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.”
- A study published by a Columbia University political scientist tracked incidence rates for voter fraud for two years, and found that the rare fraud that was reported generally could be traced to “false claims by the loser of a close race, mischief and administrative or voter error.”
- A 2017 analysis published in The Washington Post concluded that there is no evidence to support Trump’s claim that Massachusetts residents were bused into New Hampshire to vote.
- A comprehensive 2014 study published in The Washington Post found 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast. Even this tiny number is likely inflated, as the study’s author counted not just prosecutions or convictions, but any and all credible claims.
- Two studies done at Arizona State University, one in 2012 and another in 2016, found similarly negligible rates of impersonation fraud. The project found 10 cases of voter impersonation fraud nationwide from 2000-2012. The follow-up study, which looked for fraud specifically in states where politicians have argued that fraud is a pernicious problem, found zero successful prosecutions for impersonation fraud in five states from 2012-2016.
- A review of the 2016 election found four documented cases of voter fraud.
- Research into the 2016 election found no evidence of widespread voter fraud.
- A 2016 working paper concluded that the upper limit on double voting in the 2012 election was 0.02%. The paper noted that the incident rate was likely much lower, given audits conducted by the researchers showed that “many, if not all, of these apparent double votes could be a result of measurement error.”
- A 2014 paper concluded that “the likely percent of non-citizen voters in recent US elections is 0.”
- A 2014 nationwide study found “no evidence of widespread impersonation fraud” in the 2012 election.
- A 2014 study that examined impersonation fraud both at the polls and by mail ballot found zero instances in the jurisdictions studied.
- A 2014 study by the non-partisan Government Accountability Office, which reflected a literature review of the existing research on voter fraud, noted that the studies consistently found “few instances of in-person voter fraud.”
- While writing a 2012 book, a researcher went back 30 years to try to find an example of voter impersonation fraud determining the outcome of an election, but was unable to find even one.
- A 2012 study exhaustively pulled records from every state for all alleged election fraud, and found the overall fraud rate to be “infinitesimal” and impersonation fraud by voters at the polls to be the rarest fraud of all: only 10 cases alleged in 12 years. The same study found only 56 alleged cases of non-citizen voting, in 12 years.
- A 2012 assessment of Georgia’s 2006 election found “no evidence that election fraud was committed under the auspices of deceased registrants.”
- A 2011 study by the Republican National Lawyers Association found that, between 2000 and 2010, 21 states had 1 or 0 convictions for voter fraud or other kinds of voting irregularities.
- A 2010 book cataloguing reported incidents of voter fraud concluded that nearly all allegations turned out to be clerical errors or mistakes, not fraud.
- A 2009 analysis examined 12 states and found that fraud by voters was “very rare,” and also concluded that many of the cases that garnered media attention were ultimately unsubstantiated upon further review.
- Additional research on noncitizen voting can be found here: http://www.brennancenter.org/analysi...nishingly-rare.
- Additional resources can be found here: https://www.brennancenter.org/analys...is-and-reports.
Courts Agree: Fraud by Voters at the Polls is Nearly Non-Existent
- The Fifth Circuit, in an opinion finding that Texas’s strict photo ID law is racially discriminatory, noted that there were “only two convictions for in-person voter impersonation fraud out of 20 million votes cast in the decade” before Texas passed its law.
- In its opinion striking down North Carolina’s omnibus restrictive election law —which included a voter ID requirement — as purposefully racially discriminatory, the Fourth Circuit noted that the state “failed to identify even a single individual who has ever been charged with committing in-person voter fraud in North Carolina.”
- A federal trial court in Wisconsin reviewing that state’s strict photo ID law found “that impersonation fraud — the type of fraud that voter ID is designed to prevent — is extremely rare” and “a truly isolated phenomenon that has not posed a significant threat to the integrity of Wisconsin’s elections.”
- Even the Supreme Court, in its opinion in Crawford upholding Indiana’s voter ID law, noted that the record in the case “contains no evidence of any [in-person voter impersonation] fraud actually occurring in Indiana at any time in its history.” Two of the jurists who weighed in on that case at the time — Republican-appointed former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens and conservative appellate court Judge Richard Posner — have since announced they regret their votes in favor of the law, with Judge Posner noting that strict photo ID laws are “now widely regarded as a means of voter suppression rather than of fraud prevention.”
Government Investigations Agree: Voter Fraud Is Rare
- Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, a longtime proponent of voter suppression efforts, argued before state lawmakers that his office needed special power to prosecute voter fraud, because he knew of 100 such cases in his state. After being granted these powers, he has brought six such cases, of which only four have been successful. The secretary has also testified about his review of 84 million votes cast in 22 states, which yielded 14 instances of fraud referred for prosecution, which amounts to a 0.00000017 percent fraud rate.
- Texas lawmakers purported to pass its strict photo ID law to protect against voter fraud. Yet the chief law enforcement official in the state responsible for such prosecutions knew of only one conviction and one guilty plea that involved in-person voter fraud in all Texas elections from 2002 through 2014.
- A specialized United States Department of Justice unit formed with the goal of finding instances of federal election fraud examined the 2002 and 2004 federal elections, and were able to prove that 0.00000013 percent of ballots cast were fraudulent. There was no evidence that any of these incidents involved in-person impersonation fraud. Over a five year period, they found “no concerted effort to tilt the election.”
- An investigation in Colorado, in which the Secretary of State alleged 100 cases of voter fraud, yielded one conviction.
- In Maine, an investigation into 200 college students revealed no evidence of fraud. Shortly thereafter, an Elections Commission appointed by a Republican secretary of state found “there is little or no history in Maine of voter impersonation or identification fraud.”
- In Florida, a criminal investigation into nine individuals who allegedly committed absentee ballot fraud led to all criminal charges being dismissed against all voters.
- In 2012, Florida Governor Rick Scott initiated an effort to remove non-citizen registrants from the state’s rolls. The state’s list of 182,000 alleged non-citizen registrants quickly dwindled to 198. Even this amended list contained many false positives, such as a WWII veteran born in Brooklyn. In the end, only 85 non-citizen registrants were identified and only one was convicted of fraud, out of a total of 12 million registered voters.
- In Iowa, a multi-year investigation into fraud led to just 27 prosecutions out of 1.6 million ballots cast. In 2014 the state issued a report on the investigation citing only six prosecutions.
- In Wisconsin, a task force charged 20 individuals with election crimes. The majority charged were individuals with prior criminal convictions, who are often caught up by confusing laws regarding restoration of their voting rights.
And of course non of this explains why red states like to curb early voting, close DMV offices, make IDs much harder to get, kill Sunday voting, close precincts in minority neighborhoods, etc. etc. etc. But when you look at how minorities vote (
which North Carolina specifically did before it cut all those things) then it makes perfect sense.
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The federal court in Richmond found that the primary purpose of North Carolina's wasn't to stop voter fraud, but rather to disenfranchise minority voters. The judges found that the provisions "target African Americans with almost surgical precision."
[7 papers, 4 government inquiries, 2 news investigations and 1 court ruling proving voter fraud is mostly a myth]
In particular, the court found that North Carolina lawmakers requested data on racial differences in voting behaviors in the state. "This data showed that African Americans disproportionately lacked the most common kind of photo ID, those issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)," the judges wrote.
So the legislators made it so that the only acceptable forms of voter identification were the ones disproportionately used by white people. "With race data in hand, the legislature amended the bill to exclude many of the alternative photo IDs used by African Americans," the judges wrote. "The bill retained only the kinds of IDs that white North Carolinians were more likely to possess."
This entire push has one and only one motivation - an excuse to further disenfranchise minority voters and tip the scales to Republicans - by any means necessary. Which will all know nearly single conservative is enthusiastically for - even if they won't come out and admit it. I can never figure out if they know and just won't admit it, or lie to themselves despite the overwhelming evidence when it comes to voter ID. I've never even met one conservative (except grizy I think, but again - he's in Frum territory as a defacto democrat) who could admit the courts might be right and N. Carolina might have been a little out of line. It's weird.
Here's a bunch of fraud cases in Alabama, usually cited by the pro-voter ID crowd. The catch? All but one is absentee ballot fraud. Which AGAIN - Republicans absolutely will never touch or impede in any way. This alone should be enough to convince any reasonable person where their motivation lies in all this.
http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/20...-15-Merged.pdf This is a common tactic. But if there's this much absentee fraud just IMAGINE how much in person fraud there is. So let's focus on the imaginary thing and ignore the real thing.
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2016 - Daniel W. Reynolds - absentee ballot fraud
2015 – Janice Lee Hart - absentee ballot fraud
2015 – Lesa Coleman - absentee ballot fraud
2015 – Olivia Lee Reynolds -absentee ballot fraud
2010 – Karen Tipton Berry - absentee ballot fraud
2010 – Gay Nell Tinker - absentee ballot fraud
2005 – 11 individuals - absentee ballot fraud
2004 – Shasta Nicole Crayton - impersonation fraud
2002 – Nathaniel Gosha and Lizzie Mae Perry - absentee ballot fraud
2000 – Melvin Lightning and Aaron Evans - absentee ballot fraud
2000 – 9 individuals including a judge and a sheriff - absentee ballot fraud
Kobach will be more than happy to use every propaganda tool at his disposal and outright lies to further this cause - just like he did in Kansas.
