Time for a universal retinal-scan system (like the kind that was ubiquitous in "Minority Report").

Personally, I think it would be cool never to have to carry ID around, even if Big Brother always knew where I was.

There has never, Ever, been shown to be a problem which ID solves.

IDing voters disenfranchises people, a proven fact, and yet there is no benefit from doing so. None.

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I'm sorry, but requiring people to show an appropriate ID is hardly worthy of the title 'War on Voting.'

Yay! Someone else likes my game!

Given that evidence shows requiring an ID doesn't stop the non-existent boogeyman of voter fraud, and it is shown that the only thing it does stop is valid registered voters from voting, what choices do we have about the intentions of people who push this rubbish?

Are they either a.) ignorant, or b.) evil?

Brilliant strategy by republicans. Pick something that every middle class white person has, and doesn't understand why it might be difficult for poor black people to get, then require that to vote. "Herp I don't see how requiring an ID is so bad. I have one derp."

I don't see why a poor old white republican couldn't run into the same issues? Without more evidence, it seems quite a stretch to say this is some big GOP conspiracy to supress voting. Like it's just as plausible that they really could believe that voter fraud is still a problem despite so much evidence to the contrary. I mean these are people the majority of whom believe there is a all powerful being who they can talk to and will grant them wishes if they ask the right way and catch him on the right day, also they believe mmgw is a giant conspiracy mostly because that's their gut feeling in spite of mountains of scientific evidence pointing to the opposite conclusion.

Maybe we can require people to have bank accounts or cars to be able to vote. I mean, all Good Americans have bank accounts and cars, right? So only bad foreigners trying to impersonate a Good American will not have these things and thus be unable to vote.

LIBERTY SOLVED!

Obviously this will cut into Republican votes, but I'm pretty certain they've looked at polling numbers and know exactly who this targets, and how little they'll be hurt compared to their opponents.

Yeah, that's why republicans are pushing this so hard (and why democrats are fighting it so hard). One imaginary case of voter fraud. Has nothing to do with demographics of voters.

Try to be more obtuse.

Umm, considering an overwhelming percentage of these people are A) moderate to extremely religious

And/or B) willing to discount MMGW based largely on 'gut instinct' or their religious convictions then I'd say the chances of it being a are very high.

Single moms are already working for their welfare check IMO. Try taking care of a kid for a day & tell me that **** ain't work.

If the GOP cared about duplicate voters, all they'd have to do would be to require people to do what they did in Iraq and/or Afghanistan after people voted there for the first time. They stuck their fingers in some blue dye that was hard to wash off. People with blue fingers had voted, and people without hadn't. This could be added to polling stations in areas that were paranoid about vote fraud, and it wouldn't discriminate against poor minorities in any way. Which is exactly why the GOP doesn't want to do it.

What makes you so certain of this other than the fact that you're assuming their intentions are nefarious?

Please explain how the problems DVaut enumerated couldn't also effect poor/old white Republican voters.

The fact that few cases of voter fraud have actually been found is not nearly as damning evidence of nefarious intent as you guys seem to think. People hold on to highly irrational beliefs and concerns in the face of contradictory evidence all the time, if not we could create AC-topia in like a few years.

Ugh obviously you have zero desire to try to see the truth behind this, even though it's painfully obvious to anyone with half a brain. Troll on...

They can be ignorant and at the same time nefarious. They might think that illegal immigrants are actually voting in large numbers but they also don't mind doing things that make it hard for other poor people to vote.

This is a much more convincing argument. Has this ever been proposed and/or rejected? It seems like the perfect counter-strategy for Dems concerned about voter-suppression conspiracies. So, have any Dems proposed this as a counter-offer/compromise? If so, how did it go? If not, why not?

There aren't as many of them. Seriously, you cannot be this out of it.

Republicans would be better off if no poor people voted even though some of them vote republican.

I don't really like this. I don't vote and don't want people to know that because of their high horsed lectures I will be forced to hear...

Obviously anywhere this is happening the republicans have enough of a majority that they don't need to compromise. I think we all know how much republicans love to compromise anyway.

A couple things:

1) As noted upthread by ifucankeepit, the Texas law allows gun licenses but not Texas University IDs to be used for voting. That's pretty obvious bias.

2) The Tennessee law that Dvaut had a post on allows absentee voter ballots. So a determined fraudster is just going to go the EZ absentee vote route, while a person who can't get an ID might not even know about the absentee ballot option or just might never get an ID at all. Many probably don't even know the law has changed.

So the democrats thought of it, but didn't bother trying because what's the point? Really? No, I guess it's a much better strategy to not attempt to do anything that could possibly ruin the one conspiracy narrative that can be used time and again to energize your base and get the vote out. Let's keep demonizing the enemy by focusing on contrived narratives that create greater divisiveness and keep our constituents distracted from the fact that we are quite possibly just as evil as them if not slightly less ignorant.