Georgia's 6th - Ossof v. Handel. - Page 18 - Politics and Economics

Right. These people want tax cuts for the rich paid for with the lives of the poor and disabled. That is a train they're eager to jump on. What they don't like is having to explain to their daughters why the President is talking about grabbing women by the pussy and mocking said disabled people whose health benefits they will gladly confiscate for their own enrichment.

Yeah, they don't like Trump talking "they're sending rapists" or saying Cruz dad helped kill JFK or that he is gonna grab pussy. Or his tweets.

But they aren't all that opposed to his agenda, especially now that he has basically just become a moderate republican in their eyes.

06-20-2017 , 09:41 PM

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RV Life

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Trumpmania is still too strong right now. I'd rather Ossoff lose now than in 2018.

06-20-2017 , 09:42 PM

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WichitaDM

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I have to question also the wisdom of running a progressive in Tom Price's rich suburbanite district. These ain't Bernie voters. It would send a terrible message to the DNC, who are already skeptical of Berniecrats, if such a guy loses where HRC came close, and it's a stone lock imo he would lose bigly.

He lost anyways. When the DNC stops focusing on running candidates who can win (well in their minds we all know how good they are at picking candidates who can do that) and actually has a cohesive and coherant message besides just being the anti-bush anti-trump party their might be actual hope. Until then we have the hilldawg wing of the party leading and it will be more of the same.

06-20-2017 , 09:42 PM

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They did get tons of enthusiasm from young people and volunteers though, do you get that from some milquetoast type? Probably not.

06-20-2017 , 09:43 PM

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He doesn't need to be Bob Avakian but Obama sold a centrist message with some ****ing passion.

Fair enough, but Ossoff was the golden boy of the grassroots, not the DNC. He was picked by Daily Kos Hillarycrats iirc.

06-20-2017 , 09:44 PM

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He doesn't need to be Bob Avakian but Obama sold a centrist message with some ****ing passion.

I would say he also changed many minds regarding left wing viewpoints. He was probably the first Democrat many Americans had ever voted for.

06-20-2017 , 09:44 PM

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Well, this should definitely send a message to Republicans in the House... But not a good message for those of us hoping to see a blue wave in '18 or more responsible governing with the knowledge their seats are in danger in '18.

06-20-2017 , 09:44 PM

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spaceman Bryce

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

He doesn't need to be Bob Avakian but Obama sold a centrist message with some ****ing passion.

obama is like a once in a lifetimer tho , hard to sell a central message especially right now.

06-20-2017 , 09:45 PM

#435

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Here for the MORAL VICTORY^{^TM}!

Somebody remind me why I have to share a country with places like this.

06-20-2017 , 09:46 PM

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Trumpmania is still too strong right now. I'd rather Ossoff lose now than in 2018.

Dude we are all gonna die of starvation due to medical bills before then. gg

06-20-2017 , 09:48 PM

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Damn you guys overreact. Losing sucks but Ds are still losing close races in deep red districts.

06-20-2017 , 09:51 PM

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If you think this you should be mad at the Bernie wing for being too incompetent to even win primaries or get on ballots.

06-20-2017 , 09:54 PM

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Don't worry guys, the pelosi/schumer/clintonistas are going to learn from this and make adjustments for the next race, clearly once they just move a little bit more to the right and get more hawkish and more racisty they'll have this **** on lockdown

06-20-2017 , 09:54 PM

#440

spaceman Bryce

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Just don't be mad.That's what trump wants.You might have to wait until 2020 to win because of demographics though.

06-20-2017 , 09:55 PM

#441

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Damn you guys overreact. Losing sucks but Ds are still losing close races in deep red districts.

Dude Handel is wafflecrushing

06-20-2017 , 09:57 PM

#442

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Damn you guys overreact. Losing sucks but Ds are still losing close races in deep red districts.

lol at trying to make this into a moral victory. Handel is as deplorable as they come, a repeat loser in big time elections. Democrats had a legit opportunity to steal a seat and ****ing used the battle tested Hildawg strategy.

06-20-2017 , 09:58 PM

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Damn you guys overreact. Losing sucks but Ds are still losing close races in deep red districts.

Well we're about to watch Republicans boot 23 million Americans off of health insurance to finance a tax cut for the top 2%. We're hoping for a good sign that they will be voted out before our family members suffer and die as a result of their policies.

06-20-2017 , 09:59 PM

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It's really crazy how she's laying the wood to Ossoff. At this rate, she's going to win by more than Trump did and she's an objectively terrible candidate who will do nothing good for any of her constituents.

Ossoff may be vanilla and inexperienced, but at least he seems competent and has the platform of a decent person.

EDIT: JFC she won my precinct by 16%.

06-20-2017 , 09:59 PM

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Hilariously the Dems got so ****ing high on Hillbilly Elegy that they inexplicably believed that suburban Romney->Trump voters were a group that could be flipped, like Trump's white working class base was off limits but the cultured and educated and wealthy people who explicitly moved away from Atlanta because there were too many black people around were going to get fired up to #resist

06-20-2017 , 10:00 PM

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It's because this is a very red district. Just not a trumpkin district.

06-20-2017 , 10:01 PM

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It's going to be closer precisely because we didn't really try there... GA-06 was the best chance to flip going in, but because the Democrats targeted it, the Republicans poured TONS of money into it. If the Democrats targeted SC-05, the Republicans would have done the same.

I'm starting to doubt whether we can even flip the house in 2018. It may be game, set, match, GG democracy it was a nice run.

yeah i kinda doubt all this other stuff matters very much.

dems are fired up so turnout was already going to be high on the left. but for a variety of reasons this race became a BIG DEAL so republicans got engaged too. there are more republicans in the district so they win.

meanwhile in SC you still get the high turnout from dems but the race never became a thing so lots of republicans stayed home.

06-20-2017 , 10:02 PM

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Handel was a legitimately bad candidate with insane social views and no real qualifications but we ran ****ing Jonah from Veep on a platform stolen from one of those movie politicians whose views are designed so that it's not clear what party they are in because it doesn't matter for the plot.

Yup this.

06-20-2017 , 10:03 PM

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Damn you guys overreact. Losing sucks but Ds are still losing close races in deep red districts.

The problem is, if she wins by like 3, that means they're safe in all Cook PVI districts of R+6 or redder. That only puts about 35-40 Republican seats up for grabs in 2018 in the House. Democrats need to gain 25 seats to take back the house, so you're talking winning about 70% of the Republican seats they have a shot in.

What's more, this sends a message that all of those Republicans in the R+6 or better range are safe, which allows them to govern with even more impunity than they have been.