Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Foreign Affairs (Non 'Murica) Foreign Affairs (Non 'Murica)

08-28-2017 , 03:56 PM
We have a few specific foreign affairs threads such as Rojava and North Korea, but they get buried pretty fast when no new developments occur. An all-purpose foreign thread hopefully will be a good way to keep world news in active discussion itf. An example topic might be:

Duterte's war on drugs in the Phillippines leading to the recent extra judicial execution of a child and ensuing social unrest:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-p...-idUSKCN1B51U2

Quote:
MANILA (Reuters) - Philippine teenager Kian Loyd delos Santos told friends he dreamed of becoming a policeman after graduating from high school.

Last week, plain-clothes policemen dragged the 17-year-old to a dark, trash-filled alley in northern Manila, shot him in the head and left his body next to a pigsty, according to witnesses whose accounts appeared to be backed up by CCTV footage.

The killing has electrified the Philippines, sparked multiple investigations and galvanized what had previously been limited opposition to President Rodrigo Duterte’s war on drugs. Thousands of people have been killed since he took office 14 months ago.

Police said they shot delos Santos in self-defense after he opened fire on officers during an anti-drugs operation. But there was outrage when the CCTV footage emerged showing two officers marching a figure, subdued and apparently unarmed, toward the spot where the youth’s body was later found.
I hope to hear from some of the more knowledgeable foreign affairs posters like microbet, bobman, et al. That said, posting a link about Israel with "lol Bibi" is fine, too. I want this to be like the Trump thread, but for all things non-EnglAmerica.

Should Add: US foreign policy stuff will probably be better covered in the Trump thread. OurHouse, please keep Russia/Trump stuff there.

Last edited by AllTheCheese; 08-28-2017 at 04:02 PM.
08-28-2017 , 03:56 PM
Corruption charges against Netanyahu in Israel:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/06/w...tion-case.html

Quote:
For months, Mr. Netanyahu has been under investigation in two separate, leak-ridden graft cases involving illicit gifts from wealthy friends and back-room dealings with a local newspaper magnate in a bid for favorable coverage. The latest blow came just before the weekend, when the Israeli police signed a state’s witness deal with Ari Harow, Mr. Netanyahu’s former chief of staff and once one of his closest confidants.

A day earlier, in a legal document pertaining to the negotiations with Mr. Harow, the police said in writing, for the first time, that Mr. Netanyahu was suspected of bribery, as well as fraud and breach of trust.

In light of these developments, analysts say, it appears likely that Israel’s longest-serving prime minister after David Ben-Gurion will ultimately face charges, injecting his fourth term with a new level of turbulence and intrigue. The question now, his critics say, is how long he can stave off what they view as his looming political demise.
lol Bibi.
08-28-2017 , 04:17 PM
German police carry out searches over 'plot to kill leftists'

Quote:
German police have raided the homes and offices of two people suspected of planning to kill leftist politicians.

The pair, one of whom is a policeman, were unhappy with the government's policies towards refugees and migrants, the federal prosecutor's office said.
Cross-posting it in the Terrorism thread.
08-28-2017 , 09:08 PM
In that article, the far right "could win up to 10% of the vote" in September, i.e. at most ten percent. Amazing that the birthplace of the Nazis has fewer rwnjs than France, England, and the US.

In other news that seems thread appropriate, KJU fires missiles over Japan.

08-29-2017 , 01:38 AM
I don't know where you get that idea from. In this year's UK general election, far right parties won at most 3% of the vote.

The 52% that voted to leave the EU comprised some lwnjs too.
08-30-2017 , 01:26 PM
Cult of personalities everywhere.

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallel...t-for-violence
08-30-2017 , 01:48 PM
Currently in my home country of Montenegro and within the last couple of days Russia has been in the news a lot lately because of more proof showing they were behind an attempted coup last October here during our elections to try and get a pro-Russian PM so that we wouldn't join NATO (which happened June of this year) and hopefully hurt our quest to become a member of the EU. Russia really doesn't like democracy...

Here's a pic of billboards placed in Montenegro during the later part of 2016

09-03-2017 , 09:42 PM
09-04-2017 , 01:25 PM
Subscribed. Good thread idea. The Rojava thread does fall back, but not for lack of trying. I look for news on it almost every day.

So far this is the international law and order thread.

Speaking of Rojava, I probably mentioned that their policing vision is for everyone to take six weeks of police training and then disband the police force.
09-04-2017 , 03:53 PM
How do they intend to train the next generation if there are no police to do the training? Is it going to be like a system of village elders, with knowledge passed down through the generations?
09-04-2017 , 03:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalfrezi
How do they intend to train the next generation if there are no police to do the training? Is it going to be like a system of village elders, with knowledge passed down through the generations?
Everyone is the police. Lots of people to train. Plus they don't just pass knowledge on through epic heroic poetry. They can write things down and read them later. Also, police trainer could be a profession where the trainers have no special policing powers. That's part of the point. It's two fold; for one you don't create a class of people with special powers and rights (and almost always above the law to some degree) and for two the idea is that everyone is responsible for the community. If you need help you can call your neighbor or anyone and not just the police.
09-04-2017 , 10:21 PM
Just a note that if you aren't reading Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, and Defense One, you're missing out on some good coverage in this area. I'm sure the formal IR journals are good too, but I'd guess there's also a lot of theoretical jargon and modeling of debatable usefulness in them. Anyone else got hot spots for international coverage? I'd especially like somewhere that covers international financial institutions in readable English.
09-04-2017 , 10:45 PM
I don't really go straight to those, but end up finding Foreign Affairs a lot. My daughter just started college this fall and is taking a class on American Foreign Policy and International Relations and I'm doing what reading I can along with her. The first couple articles were from International Organization and Review of International Studies. I'm logging in and downloading the articles, so I can't just link, but I did find one of them online:

https://www.scribd.com/document/2663...t-NATO-in-Asia

It's not that mind-blowing or anything, but interesting and I'm a newb to the subject and learning the theoretical jargon and modeling of debatable usefulness.

FA seems to have a lot of stuff for free and I'll start checking that out directly.
09-05-2017 , 04:23 PM
Insanely horrible stuff over the weekend from Myanmar, suggesting the possibility of a mass ethnic cleansing/genocide campaign against the Rohingya:

Quote:
In recent days, a constant stream of desperate people has marched through muddy fields while attempting to escape the violence. At least 46 Rohingya died last week when boats capsized while crossing a river between the two countries, the Bangladeshi authorities said.

The Rohingya are a largely Muslim ethnic group who mainly live in Rakhine State in western Myanmar, where they face severe restrictions on basic rights. On Aug. 25, Rohingya militants attacked several police outposts and a military base, killing at least 12 members of security forces.

The Myanmar military says it killed 370 Rohingya fighters in response to that attack. Soldiers and Buddhist vigilantes have carried out a campaign against people in Rakhine State, and those who have fled described seeing civilians shot from helicopters and homes burned to the ground.
09-05-2017 , 04:52 PM
The Rohingya story was on the radio today. Democracy Now I think. There were big protests I think in Chechnya. There have been stories about this on and off for a few years. I wonder how much is new and how much is just getting told because of the opening of Myanmar. It would be kind of scary if the population is just getting some more freedoms and genocide is what they want to do with it. Soldiers, or police, and vigilantes killing together is a scary combination.
09-05-2017 , 04:56 PM
I read an article recently that suggested the prior dictatorship did a lot (and is still doing a lot) to rile up hatred against Muslims:

Quote:
The state of race relations in Myanmar is far more complex than Schroeder’s film allows. It is not uncommon to hear members of the Bamar majority say they “hate Islam” but, when pressed, admit they have no issue with Muslims living in their towns. One of the film’s other blind spots is the military. Aside from a brief glance at the mass population shifts between Rakhine and Bangladesh in the late 1970s, there is very little on how the army had been inciting ethnic violence in places like Rakhine long before Wirathu appeared, nor is there any mention of a popular theory that Wirathu is paid, or at least encouraged, by senior generals, some of whom are often photographed at his monastery. In this lack of a deeper historical setting, and the argument that the film could have gone further to expose the involvement of the military in ethnic violence, Schroeder’s film resembles Joshua Oppenheimer’s harrowing documentary The Act of Killing (2012), which examines former members of the Indonesian death-squads responsible for the mass killing of communists between 1965-1966.
09-06-2017 , 03:40 PM
How many grenade attacks in sweeden since 2011?

Spoiler:
78
09-07-2017 , 06:06 AM
Might be one of the most amazing things i ever heard tbh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...acks_in_Sweden

Meanwhile in London, 454 acid attacks in 2015

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/838...-burns-surgeon

Im also worried about geopolitics. I think the world is growing too complex too fast. Internal matters are becoming international problems because of (among other things) modern technology.
09-07-2017 , 06:12 AM
what do you think the link is between acid attacks in the UK and geopolitics?
09-07-2017 , 06:22 AM
I have you in my ignore list and i vaguely rememeber you, so i will stick to my policy of staying away from ignored ppl.

I dont even get your question anyways so thats alright.
09-07-2017 , 10:55 AM
You have me on ignore because I pointed out you were incapable of just letting a discussion go without responding which you've kind of demonstrated even after putting me on ignore. That's pretty dumb.

If you do read this my point is what is the relevance of the acid attacks in London to your point regarding geopolitics or politics in general.
09-07-2017 , 01:45 PM
Im just going to have you filtered, there are many other ppl for you to chat with around here.

My filter just to give some context to the other ppl around here: dereds, Toothsayer, Alex wice, Poconoder.
09-07-2017 , 02:00 PM
Multimillionaire* Alex Wice
09-07-2017 , 02:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aflametotheground
Im just going to have you filtered, there are many other ppl for you to chat with around here.

My filter just to give some context to the other ppl around here: dereds, Toothsayer, Alex wice, Poconoder.
You're not getting any better at the ignoring me thing.
09-07-2017 , 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aflametotheground
I have you in my ignore list and i vaguely rememeber you, so i will stick to my policy of staying away from ignored ppl.

I dont even get your question anyways so thats alright.
The question was:-

Quote:
what do you think the link is between acid attacks in the UK and geopolitics?
Your own source stated that organised crime in London has been using acid because of the legal crackdown on knives. (And, before that, guns, though guns aren't mentioned.) You seem to think there's some 'geopolitical' element, but you don't say what you think that element is.

      
m