I don't recall there being a thread about this subject. In any case it seems like the issue is worthy of a new thread given the stuff that is happening in Seattle, an probably elsewhere where it appears that even well meaning people can't agree on a solution.

I personally don't know about the subject to have an opinion other than to note again that the Forbes 400 people could singlehandedly make every homeless person a millionaire without affecting their own lifestyles.

seize the means of production

no

Also, your math is way off.

High quality social housing mixed in with the private housing. That may also require the government to get involved with ensuring sufficient private housing.

Not in my backyard!

Buy some backyards. Or create new towns.

If really necessary then stuff their mouths with gold.

I am honored to have posted a video that triggered the creation of this thread.

Like George Carlin said, golf courses and cemeteries.

I'd start with single payer that includes mental health services. A huge portion of the homeless are mentally ill. So just giving them housing won't really fix it and they'd probably be back on the streets soon.

Then work on the drug problem in the country. Not by building walls or having a war on drugs but through education, better treatment centers, and better services for them.

And yet

Moon base.

I was thinking sex yacht

Soylent Green

More abortion clinics, more abortion advertising, higher abortion incentives

[QUOTE=StimAbuser;53933549]I'd start with single payer that includes mental health services. A huge portion of the homeless are mentally ill. So just giving them housing won't really fix it and they'd probably be back on the streets soon.

At the current state, Zoloft and Paxil isn't enough to treat this issue.

Certainly helpful measures for preventable care.

I think the crux of this debate is finding helpful ideas on what to do for the homelessness in the 1-5 year time range.

https://www.theonion.com/myth-vs-fac...m_content=Main

You know better than this.

I'll just throw in three suggestions:

1) Universal healthcare which covers mental health.
2) Some sort of housing system that Ben Carson has absolutely no say in. One idea is a tiered system where perhaps those who refuse to help themselves or are simply incapable of it can stay at a shelter. Others can "graduate" to smaller group housing or individual homes, based on some sort of merit system or something.
3) Universal basic income. OK, David, so maybe we can give away SOME money...

A link for those that may have missed what happened in Seattle: https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...aled-one-month

Fewer icky homeless people and fewer democratic voters? Count me in.

Gonna have to boycott amazon after I’m done with season 2 of Goliath.

Mental health services and care is more than just loading people up on anti depressants... lol.

This problem isn't going to be fixed in 1-5 years. We've spent decades completely ignoring our mentally ill, drug addicted, and poor. This will take work.

This sounds really good.

UBI

Make homelessness punishable by life in prison

A huge portion of the homeless are mentally ill.

You have no idea. Most people have a vague recollection that things changed during the Reagan years, but it was a seismic shift in how mentally ill people were dealt with - and like a lot of things, the road to hell was paved with good intentions.

In the guise of "Giving the mentally ill back their rights" pretty much every long term asylum/home was shut down, and the patients tossed on the streets. In some states they got some sort of support that theoretically would make up for the previous services, in some states they didn't. Most states took it as an opportunity to shed a huge expense off their budget. Were some of the places snake pits? Yep. A lot weren't. And people who had been institutionalized for years were cut loose. It went about as well as you would expect.

Nowadays, it's worse, from what I can tell. We routinely are holding 10-15 psych patients in our department for placement. Of course none of them have insurance, so the only place they can go is the state facility, or one other spot that takes Medicaid when they're feeling like it - but they screen the patients and avoid the really ****ed up ones - the ones who really need help. So at any one time 20-25% of our beds are occupied by people just sleeping/watching TV - not so good if you're writhing with a kidney stone in the lobby.....

It's beyond sad.

MM MD

We had 'care in the community' at the same time under Thatcher.

Nice idea but only if it's extremely well funded. That means good social housing just to start with.

It can't be fixed bec of 'Build it and they will come.' The mental health aspect is one component but the larger one is low income people who fling themselves into the system, wait some period of years, and get a re-habbed apartment w/ rent subsidies. Build as many low income housing units as you want, there's a never ending supply of people that will show up to get them.

ETA: I just realized that DS is likely referring to street people and not to what I was addressing. GL w/ fixing that one unless we are ready to force them off of the streets and into shelters.