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Old 02-20-2009, 11:59 AM   #676
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This bill sounds fine to me. If you have nothing to hide, what's the problem if the government tracks your internet usage? If this saves even one child from being sexually abused, I'm all for it.
I'm sure someone will say this is a "level" but it's not. DUCY?
 
Old 02-20-2009, 12:00 PM   #677
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This bill sounds fine to me. If you have nothing to hide, what's the problem if the government tracks your internet usage? If this saves even one child from being sexually abused, I'm all for it.
I hope you're not leveling me.

Anyway, instead of typing the cons out myself, I'll selfishly steal a quote from another site.

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Everybody here should write to both of their Senators and their Representative (regardless) and simply provide a link to this /. thread to educate them on all the technical reasons why this bill is very ill-conceived.

In layman's terms most of the reasons boil down to:

1. The required equipment will cost private citizens and small businesses a prohibitive amount of money. Many homes will find themselves spending more on their log archive than they spent on their computers, and small Internet cafe businesses simply be forced to close.

2. It will require expertise which most people simply don't have, forcing everybody to hire IT professionals to manage their home networks. (Ask your congerssperson if they know how to set up such a log without enlisting the help of an expert. Then ask them how a working-class family could ever afford to hire such help simply to use the Internet on their home laptops.)

3. It will utterly fail to achieve the objective of preventing anonymous Internet use. HDCP logs only record MAC addresses, which can easily be forged and sometimes are not even unique.

This bill is about as useful and practical as asking people to keep a filing cabinet full of photographs of every shoe-footprint that ever shows up in their back garden. It richly deserves to be laughed off the floors of Congress, should it ever even get that far.
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:00 PM   #678
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Could go either way imo.
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:02 PM   #679
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Also another quote near and dear to most people on this forum:

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That's the very idea, they will never tell you do do it or how they expect your logs to be autenticated[sic], so everyone will be on the wrong side of the law and the days some cops will be pissed that he didn't find any weapon, drug or libertarian literature while reading your house, that will be one more of the many reasons he could arrest you anyway.
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:02 PM   #680
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They want the internet to no longer be anonymous?
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:31 PM   #681
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Could go either way imo.
I agree, it could go either way, but either way it's not a level.
 
Old 02-20-2009, 12:32 PM   #682
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This would have made it a level:

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This bill sounds fine to me. If you have nothing to hide, what's the problem if the government tracks your internet usage, amirite? If this saves even one child from being sexually abused, I'm all for it imo.
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:41 PM   #683
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I agree, it could go either way, but either way it's not a level.
Lighten up, Francis. It's the LC thread for ****s sake.
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:52 PM   #684
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Also another quote near and dear to most people on this forum:
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That's the very idea, they will never tell you do do it or how they expect your logs to be autenticated[sic], so everyone will be on the wrong side of the law and the days some cops will be pissed that he didn't find any weapon, drug or libertarian literature while reading your house, that will be one more of the many reasons he could arrest you anyway.
Standard with governments in the USA now. A law on dogs was passed about a year or so ago in the city where I live. Mayor endorsed the law but admitted it was unenforcable. Obviously if the law is unenforcable prosecution of violations of the law are selective and are can be used to promote some political agenda. It's a phenomona that is happening at every level government and I think it erodes confidence in the system.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:02 PM   #685
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Lighten up, Francis. It's the LC thread for ****s sake.
I'm as light as it gets. I don't really care whether your statement was serious or not, I'm commenting on the misuse of the word "level" by other people.
 
Old 02-20-2009, 01:05 PM   #686
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I must be misusing it constantly then. What's the proper definition?
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:13 PM   #687
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A level is when you say something serious that people misunderstand because they're not thinking it all the way through. You're thinking at a "higher level" than they are, they've been leveled.

Saying something that is different than what you actually believe just to "trick" people into responding is a troll, not a level.
 
Old 02-20-2009, 01:17 PM   #688
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Saying something that is different than what you actually believe just to "trick" people into responding is a troll, not a level.
Maybe he was just being funny, and not particularly interested in goading you or anyone else into responding. Not every sarcastic comment is a "troll". Even if he was being serious, maybe he wasn't "tricking" you into responding at all.

This is where the "zomg you're a troll" people go off the rails imo, it's a dash of extreme self-centeredness ("zomg someone tricked me into responding, and I had to respond, wtf, trolling!!!") coupled with a whole lot of mind reading.

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Old 02-20-2009, 01:20 PM   #689
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I was an easy target. I was kind of hoping somebody would take the other side.

In poker, we call that "trapping" the opponent. You "trapped" me.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:24 PM   #690
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More like TARPed.



If I was any good at photoshop, I would change the tarp to the stimulus bill.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:25 PM   #691
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More like TARPed.
Is this a level?
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:27 PM   #692
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Maybe he was just being funny, and not particularly interested in goading you or anyone else into responding. Not every sarcastic comment is a "troll". Even if he was being serious, maybe he wasn't "tricking" you into responding at all.

This is where the "zomg you're a troll" people go off the rails imo, it's a dash of extreme self-centeredness ("zomg someone tricked me into responding, and I had to respond, wtf, trolling!!!") coupled with a whole lot of mind reading.
Well, that's possible. Regardless, he's not leveling.

I'm not really that much of a "zomg he's a troll" person. I just get sick of people using "level" incorrectly. Trolls should be called trolls. Misusing "level" there just gives them more credibility than they deserve.
 
Old 02-20-2009, 01:28 PM   #693
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this youtube covers two of politards favorite topics: the gold standard AND lolcats:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU
 
Old 02-20-2009, 01:29 PM   #694
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If I was any good at photoshop, I would change the tarp to the stimulus bill.
Do this and change Admiral Ackbar heads to Bernake and Paulson for epic win imo
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:31 PM   #695
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dammit, if my computer wasn't in ****ing safe mode cause of this virus it has I'd be doing that photoshop right now adobe can't run apparently in safe mode.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:44 PM   #696
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the gold standard AND lolcats
one in the same imo
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:47 PM   #697
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A level is when you say something serious that people misunderstand because they're not thinking it all the way through. You're thinking at a "higher level" than they are, they've been leveled.

Saying something that is different than what you actually believe just to "trick" people into responding is a troll, not a level.
I'm confused. Is this supposed to be a troll or a level?
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It's a trollevel.
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:58 PM   #699
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I'm confused. Is this supposed to be a troll or a level?
 
Old 02-20-2009, 06:23 PM   #700
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Glenn Beck's show today is all about a 2014 SHTF scenario (chalk full of bits of truthiness and also plenty of standard idiocy). One of the guests has suggested that rich people in NYC will be living in fortresses like they do in Mexico city.

I know I talk about this all the time, but his show really cracks me up. I guess it's funny watching misinformation evolve to try to explain things. But it's amazing hearing stuff like this on Fox.

Edit: Now they're talking about the "Bubba effect" which is basically freedom fighters forming private militias to resist the government.

Next up: God

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