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Old 02-17-2009, 04:19 PM   #526
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I give money to the Ludwig von Mises Institute (a think tank) every month, of which Tom DiLorenzo is an adjunct scholar, the president of which is the infamous Lew Rockwell, suspected author of the even more infamous NEWSLETTAHS, whom I also know personally. So apparently that "indicates a stronger likelihood of being a white supremacist" on my part, yes?
A little bit, sure.
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:22 PM   #527
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You can correctly note that nothing he's written is overtly racist, sure.
So why do you include the word 'overtly'?
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:24 PM   #528
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From the League of the South website, quoted above:



Does the quote qualify as explicitly white supremacist? I think it's close.
That's "white supremacist" in the same way that BET is black supremacist.
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:24 PM   #529
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So why do you include the word 'overtly'?
Because therein lies the smear, of course.
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:26 PM   #530
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A little bit, sure.
Thanks. You know what is just as despicable as being racist? Smearing non-racists as racists, oh wait, I meant "not overtly racist."

Now I'm done.
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:27 PM   #531
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I give money to the Ludwig von Mises Institute (a think tank) every month, of which Tom DiLorenzo is an adjunct scholar, the president of which is the infamous Lew Rockwell, suspected author of the even more infamous NEWSLETTAHS, whom I also know personally. So apparently that "indicates a stronger likelihood of being a white supremacist" on my part, yes?
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Thanks. You know what is just as despicable as being racist? Smearing non-racists as racists, oh wait, I meant "not overtly racist."
But I didn't say you were a racist, and I didn't say you were a white supremacist, and that's not what you asked. I said if you give money to guys who write a bunch of racist stuff like Rockwell you're a little more likely to be a racist too, and if you work for a white supremacist's think tank, you're even more likely to be a white supremacist than a guy who just gives money, reads their books, or browses their web sites.
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Q:Why does the LS seek to protect the Anglo-Celtic core population and culture of the historic South?
A: The Anglo-Celtic peoples settled the South and gave it its dominate culture and civilisation. We believe that the advancement of Anglo-Celtic culture and civilisation is vital in order to preserve our region as we know it. Should this core be destroyed or displaced the South would be made over in an alien image — unfamiliar and inhospitable to our children and grandchildren. We, as Anglo-Celtic Southerners, have a duty to protect that which our ancestors bequeathed to us. If we do not promote our interests then no one will do it for us.
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That's "white supremacist" in the same way that BET is black supremacist.
wat? Link to the BET website where it says black people have dominate culture and civilisation.

A television station devoted to black audience ...is not at all the same as that quote. What a bizarre analogy.
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Does the quote qualify as explicitly white supremacist? I think it's close.
Im sure you will find bordeline homophobic comments by the roman catholich chuchr, yet not all roman catholics are homophobics.
Being part of a group doesnt mean u agree with everything they say.
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:51 PM   #534
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If you or I literally were affiliated with a white supremacist's think tank, though, I think that ... would indicate a stronger likelihood of being a white supremacist yourself.
Not necessarily, actually. If I think the world is round and just about everyone else I ever meet believes it is flat, I'll be way more likely to want to talk with anyone who also sees it as round.

It might be that you found out it was round because you're a child molester and you ride a raft to exotic islands to molest children, so you figured it out. That's unfortunate. But if I was determined to help people understand that the world is round, you might end up having information that helps me. And in this case it sharply reduces the likelihood that I would necessarily have other things in common with you (because the incentive to talk to you is already so high).

Whatever I eat for lunch today will indicate an increased likelihood of really enjoying that food. But if I'm starving on an island, it indicates little or nothing beyond that this is the food I was able to find. If I never talk about enjoying gizzard guts, it probably isn't fair to suggest I'm likely to enjoy them. "If you eat something it indicates a likelihood that you enjoy it" might sound nice, but it overlooks the chance I was starving (it actually assumes the perspective where I'm necessarily not starving).

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Old 02-17-2009, 04:52 PM   #535
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GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA CONTENT !!!11
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:58 PM   #536
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This is not content imo.
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Old 02-17-2009, 05:02 PM   #537
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we are discussing if some insignificant academic figure in the grand schemes of things is racist or not, seems low content to me.
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Old 02-17-2009, 05:05 PM   #538
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we are discussing if some insignificant academic figure in the grand schemes of things is racist or not, seems low content to me.
I wouldn't go so far as to call borodog "insignificant"
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Old 02-17-2009, 05:09 PM   #539
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I take offense at that.

I am no longer in academia.
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Old 02-17-2009, 05:10 PM   #540
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in the grand schemes of things dilorenzo is insignifican, sure in mises wonderland he is important but not in the real world. The only people that are taken seriously are Nozick, Hayek, Friedman and others Im probably missing, but nobody gives a **** about dilorenzo, I would even say nobody cares about Hoppe either.
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Old 02-17-2009, 05:11 PM   #541
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Im sure you will find bordeline homophobic comments by the roman catholich chuchr, yet not all roman catholics are homophobics.
Being part of a group doesnt mean u agree with everything they say.
Right. I think I've been careful to say that because DiLorenzo works for the League of the South, that doesn't mean DiLorenzo agrees with everything the League of the South says. As an associated scholar, some of what the League of the South "says" comes from DiLorenzo himself.
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Im not saying he isnt racist, Im just saying there is not enough evidence to say he is racist and to call him racist with the info we have now is unfair. Innocent till proven guilty imo.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:13 PM   #543
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Dvaut has always maintained that people should only hang out with the most squeaky clean individuals. Except of course when it's to further your own career in Chicago Politics, then its ok.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:15 PM   #544
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:15 PM   #545
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Boro taking his ball and going home ITT
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:20 PM   #546
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Dvaut has always maintained that people should only hang out with the most squeaky clean individuals. Except of course when it's to further your own career in Chicago Politics, then its ok.
I think I said that DiLorenzo was guilty by association and nothing more. In fact, I even referenced that this was analogous to Obama:

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this should demonstrate is that it's pretty hard to be part of the old dinosaur paleoconservative crowd that likes to spend their time jerking each other off about the South's Lost Cause and NOT have spent some time traveling in nutty circles with white supremacists. It's not entirely different from being a leftist politician from Chicago and having associations with Bill Ayers or something: DiLorenzo's only crime is guilt by association, because like I said, it's not like The Real Lincoln's cover flap has a picture of DiLorenzo in his Klan outfit.
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Besides, DiLorenzo greatly admires and quotes liberally another notorious Lincoln-hating white supremacist, Lerone Bennett, Jr., author of Forced Into Glory: Abraham Lincoln's White Dream.
K so I'll just read this one then?

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In fact, I even referenced that this was analogous to Obama:
so in addition to calling him a racist you implied that he is a lying marxist warmonger ??? jeesus man smear much?

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Old 02-17-2009, 07:08 PM   #549
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How does an economy work? Can't money just be made and given to people to spend?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9135957AAk8a1k
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:09 PM   #550
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Wtf is this ****ty content doing in the LC thread? I need someone to blame, and someone to ban. And that someone is:

Taso.

Why the hell did you need to specify that the book not be written by a white supremacist? Ban so you can consider your sins.

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