***February Low Content Thread*** - Page 37 - Politics and Economics

Beats me...... I might have to come up with a good Nielso theory about this cover up.....

I was not drinking last night so there was no way i did it.

Oh well i'll wait another day and see what happnens. I don't wanna ruffle obamas feathers if he turns out to be good for pokhers

What happened? You logged on and it wasn't there?

What happens if you just put it back?

02-26-2009 , 06:42 AM

#902

Nielsio

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"Wikipedian Protester"

http://xkcd.com/285/

lawl!

02-26-2009 , 10:19 AM

#903

Mahatma

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While reading some negative reviews of 'How capitalism saved America' I came across this quote:

"It is heavy on Schumpeter, Hayek and Von Mises, the great thinkers of the twentieth century, all of whom openly admitted to the failures of capitalism."

Does anyone know what Schumpeter, Hayek and Von Mises said about the failure of capitalism?

02-26-2009 , 10:47 AM

#904

Ineedaride2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

I'm not going to comment on whether or not the avatar should or should not come back, but it's a dumb avatar. I mean, seriously. Do you honestly think you're creative, clever, insightful, funny, or going to change anyone's mind by using that? No, it's just to get a rise out of people. We have a word for that.

The same could be said for 90% of the avatars on this site. Including mine. Hell, I can't even remember what mine is.

02-26-2009 , 11:08 AM

#905

TomCollins

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Originally Posted by iron81

IIRC, the rule for avatars is: if anyone complains about an avatar as being "offensive" with some sort of logical reason why, it has to come down. Whoever (not necessarily Elliott) who had it taken down didn't have a lot of discretion.

LOL it was anyone other than Commissar Elliot.

02-26-2009 , 11:45 AM

#906

pvn

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Originally Posted by iron81

Your avatar deeply offends me.

02-26-2009 , 12:01 PM

#907

The 13th 4postle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pvn

Your avatar deeply offends me.

You have to have a reason why.

02-26-2009 , 12:12 PM

#908

pvn

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Originally Posted by The 13th 4postle

You have to have a reason why.

it's self-evident.

02-26-2009 , 12:23 PM

#909

ElliotR

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Originally Posted by TomCollins

LOL it was anyone other than Commissar Elliot.

Wat

02-26-2009 , 12:34 PM

#910

The 13th 4postle

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Originally Posted by pvn

it's self-evident.

Guess you don't like it when someone copies you huh?

02-26-2009 , 12:48 PM

#911

NeBlis

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahatma

Does anyone know what Schumpeter, Hayek and Von Mises said about the failure of capitalism?

They admitted that it was not perfect and did not solve all the worlds problems many times. The contention being that true capitalism is not utopia merely the best solution to a complex problem.

Utopian socialists see this as a fault rather than the positive that it is.

02-26-2009 , 01:07 PM

#912

pvn

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Originally Posted by The 13th 4postle

Guess you don't like it when someone copies you huh?

Not at all. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, amirite?

The offense is in that Iron is using the avatar in a non-ironic manner. I'm mocking the near-deification of Leader Barry, while Iron is actually perpetuating it. Which offends me. Deeply. I will be bringing this up in my next session.

02-26-2009 , 01:20 PM

#913

ALawPoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pvn

Leader Barry

02-26-2009 , 03:20 PM

#914

ErikTheDread

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A lucky break for the politics forum: my employeer has introduced a brand spanking new draconian corporate-wide internet policy that means that I will be spending much less time here. Enjoy!

02-26-2009 , 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ErikTheDread

A lucky break for the politics forum: my employeer has introduced a brand spanking new draconian corporate-wide internet policy that means that I will be spending much less time here. Enjoy!

02-26-2009 , 03:26 PM

#916

Dan.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ErikTheDread

A lucky break for the politics forum: my employeer has introduced a brand spanking new draconian corporate-wide internet policy that means that I will be spending much less time here. Enjoy!

Means I won't have to change my avatar. Thanks!

02-26-2009 , 03:30 PM

#917

vulturesrow

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Originally Posted by Borodog

Well let's take a look.

You say that it is laughworthy, and then claim that it is exactly as quoted? "Well off the mark"? Does it have to turn on it's radar to target enemy aircraft or not? Did he claim that it wasn't a superior fighter plane to anything else built? Uh, no? Does that affect the conclusions of the article in the slightest? Also no.

No. The point is that he says that it is allegedly a stealth aircraft, but that that there is no such thing as an aircraft that is completely invisible to radar, as if that were some sort of condemnation of its stealth characteristics. And if its not a superior fighter aircraft to anything we have now than what is the problem? And do some research on AMRAAM and tell me if you think the aircraft has to turn on its radar in combat. I cant really go any further down this particular path.

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Read again. Your reading comprehension has no basis in reality. He said it can maneuver at altitude, which is useless, because there is no other plane that can. Do you see why?

You're splitting hairs. You still need to be able to maneuver at whatever altitude you can climb to. Its a ridiculous argument which makes no sense to anyone that actually flies tactical aircraft.

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If you want to actually provide an argument for why a Mach 2 stealth fighter plane that costs a third of a billion dollars a pop, plus god knows how much to equip and maintain, is relavent to fighting sandle wearing beggers with RPGs and IEDs in the narrow streets of third world nations whose GDP is less than the Pentagon's budget, be my guest. Until then, I am unimpressed with your handwaving.

China might be on a lot of people's minds, but that doesn't have anything to do with using F22s to fight 4G battles.

I dont care to since I never made any claim that that the aircraft has relevance to the current war. Thats not what the aircraft is built for. Its built to combat countries that can threaten our air superiority.

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No coincidentally, the A10 is also much better at actually hitting targets, as was mentioned in the article. That was, in fact, the point. In other words, the third-billion-dollar fighter does not replace the pocket change A10 for these kinds of jobs.

I've seen nothing to back up that claim. About the only thing it can do better is strafe, and have a little more survivability certain surface to air threats.

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So what? Did you even read the article? This is completely irrelevant to the point. All I see is you agreeing with the article, reinforcing what it says, yet ignoring the point and sneeringly calling it "a joke", "laughworthy", "not based in reality", "you laughed out loud" (I find it interesting when people admit that they laughed out loud at something they failed to comprehend).

Im not sure what your point is anymore. Ive seen nothing that backs up the claims you made in your original post. And saying I dont comprehend something doesnt make it so. The fact that you dont think I comprehend an article about the advantages and disadvantages of a certain aircraft is roughly equivalent to me posting a ludicrous article about physics and then claim you dont comprehend when you rightly ridicule it.

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By the way, your tone here is exactly why I have no interest in being nice with you.

I'll try not to lose any sleep over that. The fact of the matter is that my "tone" in my response to that article is the same tone you take on a regular basis with many posters on this forum. Sorry the taste of your own medicine is so bitter. And FWIW, my statements in my post were not directed at you in the least. All my scorn was solely intended for the article you posted.

EDIT: BTW, I was able to read Lew Rockwell's site from my military account today.

02-26-2009 , 03:40 PM

#918

goofyballer

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Originally Posted by vulturesrow

EDIT: BTW, I was able to read Lew Rockwell's site from my military account today.

No way dude, it's a mirror site designed to trick you into THINKING you're reading Lew Rockwell's site! The government would never ever let members of its military see the information that's available there! It's WAY too sensitive and might make you think about FREEDOM OR SOMETHING!

02-26-2009 , 03:44 PM

#919

vulturesrow

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

Hmm, I see further investigation is necessary.

02-26-2009 , 03:49 PM

#920

pvn

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Originally Posted by vulturesrow

No. The point is that I'm posting content in the low-content thread

ban imo

02-26-2009 , 04:07 PM

#921

vulturesrow

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Originally Posted by pvn

ban imo

I actually dont disagree with this. Sorry for cluttering up the low content thread. I will try to post the picture of me in Saddam's chair in the next few daysto make up for it.

02-26-2009 , 04:14 PM

#922

pvn

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ok, past transgressions will be forgiven if you poast epic chair pix.

02-26-2009 , 04:25 PM

#923

tomdemaine

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02-26-2009 , 05:21 PM

#924

Noah.

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Anyone who isn't familiar with Warren Zevon needs to start listening to him.

and to make this fit in the Politics LC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ZVFOkx2fc (lyrics)