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04-16-2013 , 09:22 PM

#751

leoslayer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

I just gave you the link to the data. Even a cursory glance should give you pause before repeating this yet again. It is well past time for you to either put up or shut up

Fine I'll work on it for several days in the meantime I'll focus on this incident and will otherwise only respond to things directed at me fair enough?

I do know for a fact not every one will be accounted for so all we can really do is come close.

04-16-2013 , 09:26 PM

#752

zikzak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by leoslayer

Fine I'll work on it for several days in the meantime I'll focus on this incident and will otherwise only respond to things directed at me fair enough?

Sure. As a parting shot, I'll throw this last link at you showing incidents by death toll. You should start backpedaling really hard when you notice how many times the words 'Hutu' and 'Tutsi' appear in the top 20.

http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/search/...#results-table

04-16-2013 , 09:34 PM

#753

pvn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boltyou

I didn't know that either until I was like 13 or 14 years old, and I'm Pakistani-American (I guess Pakistani-American is the right term, although it feels unnatural and not one I ever use - American born/raised, Pakistani parents. I just call myself American because that's really what I am, but w/e).

The term has much, much more negative connotations in the UK. I don't think I've ever heard someone in the US use it in actual speech at all in any context.

04-16-2013 , 09:36 PM

#754

leoslayer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

Sure. As a parting shot, I'll throw this last link at you showing incidents by death toll. You should start backpedaling really hard when you notice how many times the words 'Hutu' and 'Tutsi' appear in the top 20.

http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/search/...#results-table

I'm not going to count African tribal/civil warfare/genocide as that doesn't fall into my definition of terrorist attack.

In fairness I may change my mind but as of right now I'd consider that grasping at straws.

04-16-2013 , 09:42 PM

#755

LetsGambool

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Quote:

Originally Posted by leoslayer

Whoa down pads I never said the Boston bomber was probably Muslim.

I said it wasn't fair to label somebody else who mentioned the Saudi as prejudiced. Based on the fact that out of the total population of terrorist individuals the majority are Muslim.

I mean your original post is only one post above the one you replied to so we all read what you said. Plus you still have shown nothing that says Muslims are the majority of terrorists.

Other than that, nice work.

EDIT: I never understand the "obviously infer something then deny saying it while continuing to infer it" method of posting.

04-16-2013 , 09:45 PM

#756

zikzak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by leoslayer

I'm not going to count African tribal/civil warfare/genocide as that doesn't fall into my definition of terrorist attack.

In fairness I may change my mind but as of right now I'd consider that grasping at straws.

Well I am pleased to learn that you are better qualified than the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism to judge what is or isn't an act of terrorism.

Here is their website. It's hosted at the University of Maryland.
http://www.start.umd.edu/start/

Which prestigious institution hosts your exemplary scholarship?

04-16-2013 , 09:48 PM

#757

[Phill]

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LetsGambool

I mean your original post is only one post above the one you replied to so we all read what you said. Plus you still have shown nothing that says Muslims are the majority of terrorists.

Other than that, nice work.

EDIT: I never understand the "obviously infer something then deny saying it while continuing to infer it" method of posting.

"I never said the bomber was likely Muslim, just that they caught a Saudi who is probably the bomber cos he is a Muslim and so are most terrorists" is a curious defense, for sure.

04-16-2013 , 09:55 PM

#758

leoslayer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [Phill]

"I never said the bomber was likely Muslim, just that they caught a Saudi who is probably the bomber cos he is a Muslim and so are most terrorists" is a curious defense, for sure.

Never said that Phill

04-16-2013 , 10:12 PM

#759

blackchilli

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seattlelou

Is reporting that a Saudi national is being held under guard at the hospital yellow journalism?

Reporting that the Saudi's room mate was interviewed, as well as listing his house address on nypost is beyond absurd. I can't even comprehend the stupidity of the editor.

The room mates are going to be harassed by randoms for sure.

04-16-2013 , 10:49 PM

#760

Trolly McTrollson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

How about FARC?

I'm a big fan of their geek links, but there's no way I'm paying $5 for totalFARC.

04-16-2013 , 11:28 PM

#761

boltyou

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On the subject of yellow journalism and the New York Post, the Onion nails it:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/thi..****y-how,32076/

04-16-2013 , 11:32 PM

#762

ChromePony

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Quote:

Originally Posted by leoslayer

I'm not going to count African tribal/civil warfare/genocide as that doesn't fall into my definition of terrorist attack.

In fairness I may change my mind but as of right now I'd consider that grasping at straws.

So your definition of terrorism seems to pretty much include only acts by Muslims. I guess that would explain why you think that most acts of terrorism are committed by Muslims.

From the Greenwald article that was posted earlier....

Quote:

Of course, the quest to know whether this was "terrorism" is really code for: "was this done by Muslims"? That's because, in US political discourse, "terrorism" has no real meaning other than: violence perpetrated by Muslims against the west.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...otes-reactions

04-16-2013 , 11:33 PM

#763

Dutch101

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Quote:

Originally Posted by leoslayer

I'm not going to count African tribal/civil warfare/genocide as that doesn't fall into my definition of terrorist attack.

In fairness I may change my mind but as of right now I'd consider that grasping at straws.

You are counting Iraqi and Afghanistan tribal/civil/warfare/genocide as terrorism so what is so different with the African version. Just admit you are clueless about the amount of terrorism in Africa and South America and we can all move on.

04-16-2013 , 11:37 PM

#764

brad2002tj

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On the local news (houston) they brought up a bombing I had never heard of before: a guy who killed himself and 5 others at a local elementary school with a briefcase bomb rigged with dynamite in 1959. There are a couple amputee survivors still around. Guess there really is nothing new.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe_E...School_bombing

04-16-2013 , 11:48 PM

#765

Paul McSwizzle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boltyou

On the subject of yellow journalism and the New York Post, the Onion nails it:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/thi..****y-how,32076/

Gold

04-16-2013 , 11:53 PM

#766

will1530

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****ing nypost. I hope the student they falsely accused sues the hell out of them and wins huge.

04-16-2013 , 11:53 PM

#767

Ray Horton

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So, did anything happen today in the investigation?

04-17-2013 , 12:03 AM

#768

boltyou

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Horton

So, did anything happen today in the investigation?

Other than learning that the bombs were made out of pressure cookers, I don't believe so.

04-17-2013 , 12:03 AM

#769

[Phill]

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Quote:

Originally Posted by will1530

****ing nypost. I hope the student they falsely accused sues the hell out of them and wins huge.

Id be shocked if they said anything that opens them to litigation. They are intentionally lolbad, not accidentally lolbad.

04-17-2013 , 12:24 AM

#770

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BoredSocial

That's what happens when two sides are willing to go to the mat. Definitely an exception that proves the rule dude.

More like when one side is sick of dealing with the other and decides to wipe them off the face of the map.

Mostly I was responding to wording in your post that specifically precluded any exceptions.

04-17-2013 , 12:47 AM

#771

john voight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andz

Didn't know that.

Neither did I, and I live in a 1st world city in California. I never used the term, but thats just b/c I feel it's slightly derogatory. I did not know it is super derogatory.

04-17-2013 , 01:03 AM

#772

Brad Childress

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boltyou

Other than learning that the bombs were made out of pressure cookers, I don't believe so.

I can't be certain of this, but I have read that even though there is a way to turn a pressure cooker into a bomb, this is not in fact what happened, that pressure cookers were merely the receptacle holding the bomb in this case. I don't know for sure if that is true but on reddit there was a discussion among guys who seemed to have a technical understanding of this stuff.

04-17-2013 , 01:14 AM

#773

suzzer99

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My guess is the pressure cooker builds up the energy of the explosive material so that when the pressure cooker finally gives, the explosion is that much more powerful. Sort of like how a capacitor builds up charge.

04-17-2013 , 01:26 AM

#774

rjoefish

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I don't think explosions work that way.

04-17-2013 , 01:27 AM

#775

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by john voight

Neither did I, and I live in a 1st world city in California. I never used the term, but thats just b/c I feel it's slightly derogatory. I did not know it is super derogatory.

It's much more common (and more derogatory) in Britain, but it's a srs biz slur. It's probably worth adding to the filter.

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